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tante

"Because #AI the 4 day work week can come true".

This is bullshit. Recent studies show that we could feed and house and take care of literally _everybody_'s needs with everyone just working 30% of what we consider "full time" today. We literally could all work less than 2 days every week and be fine. Capitalism just doesn't allow for that conceptually. Don't fall for that bogus argument.

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Lupino

@tante could you please link some of those studies?

pettter

@LupinoArts @tante sciencedirect.com/science/arti. 'With this approach, good lives can be achieved for all without requiring large increases in total global throughput and output. Provisioning decent living standards (DLS) for 8.5 billion people would require only 30% of current global resource and energy use, leaving a substantial surplus for additional consumption, public luxury, scientific advancement, and other social investments.'

N.b. resource use, not labour time though.

@LupinoArts @tante sciencedirect.com/science/arti. 'With this approach, good lives can be achieved for all without requiring large increases in total global throughput and output. Provisioning decent living standards (DLS) for 8.5 billion people would require only 30% of current global resource and energy use, leaving a substantial surplus for additional consumption, public luxury, scientific advancement, and other social investments.'

regenrohr

@tante
Keeping it simple for the argument, but this is going too far. In social work e.g you simply cant support it from a professional view. Dunno in which sector you can.

MylesRyden

@tante

Glad you called BS after the quote. Working fewer hours has come up many times and every time the ruling class shoots it down. The most recent example was the covid working at home trend. Let's face it, people worked less actual hours. And the bosses went nuts.

To work fewer hours we need to dump the bosses off our backs.

Steve Herrick

@MylesRyden @tante Work under capitalism is a treadmill. Work under capitalism with AI is a high-tech treadmill.

Michał Górny (on/tej) ∞🙀🚂🐧

@tante, because of AI we're going to have a 0-day work week. Dead people don't work (yet).

David Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)

@tante Even without that (which would require some massive changes to global economic systems to implement), the UK four-day-week pilot showed that there is little or no productivity drop going to a four-day week.

Felichs

@tante

Listen here hippy, who's going to run and attend the "Growth and Profitability Forecast" meetings if no one is gonna work?

Androcat

@tante Obvious hype is obvious.

Gotta keep that Nvidia stock value inflated, no matter the cost.

Takiro 🎨

@tante
But think of those poor Billionaires.

Gilbert Pilz

@tante The crucial question is how you define "needs". If we arbitrarily draw a line at, say, the living standard of an average European circa 1920, it's pretty obvious we could meet that standard globally with a fraction of our current labor input. Capitalism couldn't exist under those kinds of conditions. This is precisely why consumerism (advertising, marketing, etc.) was invented because only by continually inflating "needs" can capitalism justify everyone working all the time.

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