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K. Reid Wightman :verified: 🌻

"I have trust issues" is my profession. (Photo courtesy of @nstarke ).

A "wifi range extender". 
Two photos:
The first photo shows the range extender plugged into a usb power outlet. It shows three white LEDs, and it has a bunch of antennas sticking out of it.

The second photo shows the insides. Inside, it's just a tiny PCB with some LED lights. The 'antennas' are made of plastic and are not even connected to the PCB. We can assume that the PCB is just some LEDs, and that this thing does absolutely nothing for your wifi.
76 comments
mkj

@reverseics At least that thing looks Mostly Harmless(tm). Useless, but unlikely to be particularly malicious.

Alex

@reverseics @nstarke except I bet they got what they paid for. The shipping probably cost more than the item.

Lina

@reverseics @nstarke but it’s convenient to hold in your hand and plug into a USB outlet!😅

Ölbaum

@lina And it extends the space taken by USB power block you plug it into. @reverseics @nstarke

Joseph
@reverseics It's a triumph of design! Less is more!
Json Doh

@liroso @reverseics

And, it's safe for people with electromagnetic hypersensitivity.

F4GRX Sébastien

@reverseics Somewhat disappointed it's not a usb key full of malware.

David Croyle

@reverseics LOL! "So, we've received our design criteria from Marketing..."

Josh Davis

@reverseics @nstarke
Somewhere there is a factory pumping these things out by the thousands smdh.

m0xEE

@GuerillaOntologist @reverseics @nstarke
I hope this isn't a real product and that it was custom printed by someone for fun 😅

picofarad

@m0xee @GuerillaOntologist @reverseics @nstarke bigclive on YT i think has some product teardowns that are obvious frauds, but usually stuff like "plug this in to reduce your electric bill" and the like!

If we pop that single screw off and show the other side of the PCB, i bet it's a total of <10 total surface mount parts. 4 LEDs, four resistors, and maybe a 25 cent mCU to make it blinkenlight, if they do.

m0xEE

@picofarad
Sure, there's always a possibility, but this seems too… low — even for a fraud, I refuse to believe these are getting mass-produced somewhere 😅
(I don't want my belief in the mankind to get ruined more than it already is🤭)
@GuerillaOntologist @reverseics @nstarke

find you on :butterfedy1: fediverse

@m0xee @reverseics @GuerillaOntologist @nstarke the ones in my profile header cost hundreds of dollars, and dont respond well to particular sprays.

picofarad

@m0xee @GuerillaOntologist @reverseics @nstarke

haha it probably went something like this in Shenzen or wherever:
"Our supplier for the wifi extender PCBs cannot deliver!"
"can we unload the clamshells?"
"maaaaaaaaybe... do you care if we have to change the company name from TIENAN to SHGUUHJ?"
"haha no"

Josh Davis

@m0xee @reverseics @nstarke
I once bought handle-bar mounted sideview mirror for my bike from a big retailer and when I installed it, discovered that is was basically the bike mirror version of this: totally unusable, yet being mass produced and sold.

Mike Spencer

@reverseics
I had a transformer toy with the same antenna in the 80s.

Zen Heathen

@reverseics Looks to me like the only appropriate photo of this item would be with three of those "fingers" folded down. I'll let you guess which finger I think would still be standing up. @nstarke

utzer [Pleroma]
@reverseics "and that this thing does absolutely nothing for your wifi" that is about the same what Wifi range extenders did in the past, even the one with more than just LEDs. :-P
James Oh

@reverseics @nstarke
Like doing due diligence on every other PE backed SaaS startup

Jernej Simončič �

@reverseics @nstarke I also remember some (working) Bluetooth dongle that had a plastic antenna with no function.

vampirdaddy

@jernej__s @reverseics
That wire still looks like a proper lambda/4 antenna for 2.4GHz (granted, with a very spacious encosure)

Jernej Simončič �

@vampirdaddy @reverseics Yeah, the WiFi worked just fine, but they had to pretend to have much bigger antennas than they really were.

dark_stang

@reverseics @nstarke this reminds me of the power supplies that had a chunk of lead in them to make them heavier.

Friedhof der Kuschelbiere

@reverseics
If it would be mine I'd modify it a bit, put an Raspi inside and use it as a PWNagotchi....
@nstarke

Negative12DollarBill

@reverseics
I don't really get what's going on here. You bought or created this in some way to deter malicious actors? How would that work?

Markus

@negative12dollarbill @reverseics Just from the photos it appears that this device was sold as a WiFi repeater when, in fact, it’s just a few LEDs in a fancy case.

Negative12DollarBill

@mbirth @reverseics
Oh I see. You're showing us a very deceptive product. I thought you were using it in some defensive way. Cheers.

John MacNeil

@reverseics I thought it was for hiding/storing keys and small valuables in plain sight…

Bob K Mertz

@reverseics
What is this? As in, what does the package claim it does?

Dave "Wear A Goddamn Mask" Cochran :donor:

@reverseics @nstarke How did you find this photo of my dating ..... huh. I can't decide if "strategy" or "history" is funnier. 🤔

Jarjan

@reverseics
😂😂😂 More is better! Surely 4 fake antennae are better than just one!
@nstarke

Matt Seymour

@nstarke @reverseics in this very room (staying at a relative’s house) is a similar device. This one is a rodent deterrent that, apparently, emits a signal through the house wiring to drive the rats away.

mkj

@Wifiwits Does the one in your relative's house operate on the same basic principle as the dragon deterrent device?

@reverseics

Matt Seymour

@reverseics @mkj I suspect it also repels tigers using the same technology.

mkj

@Wifiwits Amazing. Just amazing. And that they *work*!

@reverseics

Rob van Kan

@reverseics It doesn't have different colours and no lights blink. Not recommended 4/10

slowtiger

@reverseics @nstarke Has anybody else noticed the eery similarity to those spiders infected by that behaviour-changing fungus which grows like these antennas?

Andreas Grois

@reverseics @nstarke Reminds me of NES cartridges, or the fact that expensive power supplies are often filled with sand to make them heavier.

edwardstoneIIIATL

@reverseics @nstarke
I'm new here, curious about many things ;) Is this image just illustrating how deceptive the exterior is to what's actually inside the product?

girlbandgeek

@edwardstoneIIIATL @reverseics Yeah. From the outside it appears to be a Wi-Fi repeater with antennas and status lights. But actually the antennas are fake, and the only functionality is 4 pointless LEDs.

abeorch

@reverseics
This feels like the 'bomb detector' they ran under our car outside the car park in #Beirut - I mean of course a grey box with an aerial sticking out of it can do that. I mean its not like I saw on the news they were originally marketed as 'golf ball finders' and were of course a total fraud - A battery, light and completely unconnected aerial in a plastic box. - It did make me feel safe though. And do you think it kept the people planting bombs at bay?
@nstarke

Roland

@reverseics @nstarke the glued-in extra weight is missing. Probably not a genuine product ;)

delProfundo

@reverseics it’s that ram doubler software all over again.,.but with more plastic!

UntouchedWagons

@reverseics Looks like something I'd see in a Big Clive video

Janet Fraser

@reverseics You and bigclivedotcom on YouTube. He makes tearing down electronic gadgetry fun and, sometimes, hilarious.

LisPi
@reverseics @evamik That's pretty much fraud, if it actually does nothing instead of just having a small antenna module on the board itself.
niconiconi

@reverseics@infosec.exchange @nstarke@bird.makeup In China, these things are basically everywhere online if you look for them, known by many different names, such as "power savers", "electronic mouse repellents", "lead-acid battery maintenance device", etc. All of them have the same design, and sometimes same PCB - an AC passthourgh outlet, and an LED. Almost nobody who knows what a watt is believes them, unfortunate, grandparents sometimes fall victim to them so they still get sales.

Viking Chieftain

@reverseics

At least it was cheap, so there was at least one good thing to be said about it.

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