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Stefano Marinelli

I really struggle to understand the direction of today's society.

For years, we've been saying we need to reduce emissions and consumption, removing chargers from smartphone boxes "to pollute less," then the "AI" comes along and we reopen fossil fuel power plants, increasing consumption and emissions for... well, who knows why!

We make people feel guilty for not switching to an electric car (or one with high energy efficiency), yet we fly for pure leisure, just to get "a few more likes" on YouTube.

We create increasingly efficient electronic devices, focus on the consumption and emissions of data centers (local or remote), and then stop optimizing code and dependencies because "there’s autoscaling" and "resources are cheap."

To me, these are ideological short circuits.

#Sustainability

6 December at 9:04 | Open on mastodon.bsd.cafe
15 comments
TomAoki

@stefano
For cars, what's best should be aware of "Well to wheel", including manufacturing processes. If electricity is generated with 100% carbon free way, and batteries, magnets, and so on (excluding common parts with ICE cars) are manufactured with lower carbon way than ICEs, BEV is clearly the only way to go.
But how are the "real world?"

Something alike should be applicable to other areas. What's most efficient throughout "total life cycle" is most important to judge the way to go. This is quite often forgotten.

@stefano
For cars, what's best should be aware of "Well to wheel", including manufacturing processes. If electricity is generated with 100% carbon free way, and batteries, magnets, and so on (excluding common parts with ICE cars) are manufactured with lower carbon way than ICEs, BEV is clearly the only way to go.
But how are the "real world?"

6 December at 9:15 | Open on mastodon.bsd.cafe
find you on :butterfedy1: fediverse

@TomAoki @stefano well said, both.... and havent you heard? Googl, m$ and scam'azon are now all investing in nuclear to poison people and planet, they say "for AI"

see the hashtag #nuclearAmazon / #nuclearGoogle and you'll get the full story. disgusting and opportunistic and a clear sign that bigtech knew what the outcome of the election would be because trump in july talked about more nuclear powered datacenters at a bitcoin conference.

i dont understand why countries are not boycotting and sanctioning the usa, frankly.

@TomAoki @stefano well said, both.... and havent you heard? Googl, m$ and scam'azon are now all investing in nuclear to poison people and planet, they say "for AI"

see the hashtag #nuclearAmazon / #nuclearGoogle and you'll get the full story. disgusting and opportunistic and a clear sign that bigtech knew what the outcome of the election would be because trump in july talked about more nuclear powered datacenters at a bitcoin conference.

6 December at 9:42 | Open on wizard.casa
TomAoki

@frogzone @stefano
There is another unfortunate reason that requires nuclear power generations.
If any country has plutonium as wastes of nuclear power generations, and it is not at all used for next nuclear power generations, countries around there would be suspicious that "is the country going to become a new nuclear-armed states?". The only way to avoid such suspicions would be pass all plutoniums to other countries or use them for nuclear power generations.
Quite unfortunately, nuclear wastes incorporating plutoniums exists in reality.

@frogzone @stefano
There is another unfortunate reason that requires nuclear power generations.
If any country has plutonium as wastes of nuclear power generations, and it is not at all used for next nuclear power generations, countries around there would be suspicious that "is the country going to become a new nuclear-armed states?". The only way to avoid such suspicions would be pass all plutoniums to other countries or use them for nuclear power generations.
Quite unfortunately, nuclear wastes...

6 December at 10:40 | Open on mastodon.bsd.cafe
BearOfaTime

I’ve been saying this forever.

We have to look at end-to-end. This includes keeping what’s currently being used going as long as makes sense given the embedded energy.

This requires a lot of deep analysis, and people don’t like to think that hard. We want easy solutions: “just do this and you’re a better person than the next”.

It’s hard to convince people something is a better approach using hyperbole and assumptions. When questioned about how much less energy/carbon/oil a hybrid or electric vehicle uses over its lifespan, and all you have is “it’s better”, people stop listening.

I’ve been saying this forever.

We have to look at end-to-end. This includes keeping what’s currently being used going as long as makes sense given the embedded energy.

This requires a lot of deep analysis, and people don’t like to think that hard. We want easy solutions: “just do this and you’re a better person than the next”.

6 December at 14:50 | Open on lemm.ee
Paul Wilde :blobcatnim: :dontpanic_nobg:

@stefano i was speaking somebody yesterday about an apparent dairy business social media post saying they've discovered a drug that can reduce the emissions... from cows, for environmental benefit
Theyre obviously backlash of people saying we shouldn't be drugging nature, which is a very fair argument but I think the real shock is lost behind that argument.... Are we blaming cow farts for climate change now? Cow farts?! Not the massive AI hype providing datacentres, cryptocurrencies, billionaire super yachts, quick trips down the the shops in your cars when a walk or cycle will do... No... Cow farts.

Bonkers.

@stefano i was speaking somebody yesterday about an apparent dairy business social media post saying they've discovered a drug that can reduce the emissions... from cows, for environmental benefit
Theyre obviously backlash of people saying we shouldn't be drugging nature, which is a very fair argument but I think the real shock is lost behind that argument.... Are we blaming cow farts for climate change now? Cow farts?! Not the massive AI hype providing datacentres, cryptocurrencies, billionaire...

6 December at 9:38 | Open on notnull.space
Adriano 🐡

@stefano The set of people in “we need to reduce” is not the same set of people saying that. The difference we probably see today is that latter used to be a group of people and it’s now becoming so small that we know their individual faces. While some of us try our best and sacrifice something to make this a better place, someone is always trying to take advantage of that.

Edited to be explicit.

6 December at 9:53 | Open on bsd.network
Nux

@stefano I think most of us are in a similar situation.
I am completely fatigued by it and at this point I don't give a **** anymore. Probably what big corp wants.
I think there's good will and effort going on, but also a LOT veil pulled on our eyes.

6 December at 10:21 | Open on fosstodon.org
Pavel Korytov :emacs:☮️

@stefano There's no "we", no collective will and nothing of that sort.

There are just:
- individuals making decisions unaligned with each other, or generally misaligned decisions;
- individuals who don't see the contradiction between their actions, which is the human default.

6 December at 10:23 | Open on mastodon.bsd.cafe
Marcus

@stefano I think a lot of it is just green washed cost saving measures. They give you less, charge you the same or even more and convince you it's better for the environment while they fly around in their private jets and yachts.

6 December at 10:28 | Open on mastodon.social
⚡Eineygður ☯ Flakkari⚡
@stefano

It's because you don't recognise that you're being spoonfed propaganda by a large scale coordinated global disinformation campaign. The electrification of vehicles has little to do with fossil fuels, especially when considering the cradle to grave energy demands involved. This was clear from day one. Instead the electrification of transport is mostly an excuse to integrate ubiquitous digital surveillance into the transportation industry (as smartphones have already done for communications) and to enable the ability for state actors to take control of vehicles at their whim. AI is also a major indispensible component of that process. The reason your ideological circuit is being shorted is that you don't yet understand that you've been played. Time to wake up now. No hitting snooze.
@stefano

It's because you don't recognise that you're being spoonfed propaganda by a large scale coordinated global disinformation campaign. The electrification of vehicles has little to do with fossil fuels, especially when considering the cradle to grave energy demands involved. This was clear from day one. Instead the electrification of transport is mostly an excuse to integrate ubiquitous digital...
6 December at 10:29 | Open on shitposter.world
Ricardo Martín
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joany

@stefano that's why #righttorepair
and Open Source is very important imho
A computer is supposed to be compliant for 36 months now where i work.
Insane, i could still rock my Powerbook G3
If i could understand computer software more.
M$ Teams take more resources then that machine has 😆😆

6 December at 16:13 | Open on mastodon.bsd.cafe
Stefano Marinelli

@joany I understand this. Today I was in a Zoom call - and I'm not using Zoom that much. After some minutes, my Macbook Pro M1 Pro (Apple Silicon) was getting hot.
I can't believe how this machine can process audio and video "at the speed of light" (not exactly, but it's really fast) and becomes hot just for a call with 4 parties.
We need to concentrate more on software efficiency.

6 December at 16:18 | Open on mastodon.bsd.cafe
@modev
Just business, no crafting, codecrafting...
6 December at 16:17 | Open on snac.bsd.cafe
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