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craignicol

@mekkaokereke I wonder if that's a result of Black men traditionally having many more female role models than White men? So strength and success are not seen as purely male attributes? There's plenty of white women who were written out of history in favour of their husbands or colleagues.

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mekka okereke :verified:

@craignicol

I think it has more to do with the puritanical influence on US culture.

The toxicity is not a white thing, so much as a white American thing.

For example, men in Sweden or Finland are as involved in childcare as Black men in the US are. Men in Europe are much more likely to wear pink, eat gelato in public (gasp!), hug their friends, etc. as a result, European men are much less lonely than American men.

apa.org/news/press/releases/20

So Black men are unique in this regard *In America*.

@craignicol

I think it has more to do with the puritanical influence on US culture.

The toxicity is not a white thing, so much as a white American thing.

For example, men in Sweden or Finland are as involved in childcare as Black men in the US are. Men in Europe are much more likely to wear pink, eat gelato in public (gasp!), hug their friends, etc. as a result, European men are much less lonely than American men.

craignicol

@mekkaokereke there's definitely a stronger gender balance in Scandinavia and it's spread to some places in Europe, but certainly not places like Italy, which has a dramatically low birth rate partially because women just won't (see also the 4b appropriation in USA, but Italy's objection is more individual than organised)

craignicol

@mekkaokereke you can see just how low Italy's birth rate is here. Like Japan, the birth rate is well below the replacement level, so the population is shrinking leaving a shrinking younger population to look after a growing older population. I can see this happening in the USA too, but that's going to put a lot more pressure on an already fragile white male population, which is not going to help the numbers in the graphs you presented.

mekka okereke :verified:

@craignicol

I have zero sympathy for any country lamenting "population decline." Population decline is not a real thing.

"Replacement rate" is not a real thing either.

Every country on earth with a shrinking population, could solve all of their population shaping problems with immigration.

There is no shortage of people that want to be citizens of your country. There's only racism and xenophobia.

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