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๐“ผ๐“ฎ๐“ป๐“ช๐“น๐“ช๐“ฝ๐“ฑใ€ใƒ„ใ€‘โ˜ฎ(๐Ÿ“๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง)

@cwebber

Why give them soooooo much space?
Why talk soooo much about bluesky?

Did they pay you for it?
I havent seen you do this for other platforms, especially when mastodon and even nostr exist that are way more decentralized. It seems kinda weird and unexpected ๐Ÿคท

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David Bruchmann replied to ๐“ผ๐“ฎ๐“ป๐“ช๐“น๐“ช๐“ฝ๐“ฑใ€ใƒ„ใ€‘โ˜ฎ(๐Ÿ“๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง)

@serapath

I think to counter or criticize @cwebber you've to come forward with something technical as long as you can't prove a big money-flow.

๐“ผ๐“ฎ๐“ป๐“ช๐“น๐“ช๐“ฝ๐“ฑใ€ใƒ„ใ€‘โ˜ฎ(๐Ÿ“๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง) replied to David

@DavidBruchmann @cwebber

its just a question.
i have rarely seen such long statements and i just wonder ๐Ÿ™‚

i am not disagreeing with what she said, but it is long and way too polite imho.

apart from that, the connection i can see is spritely cofounded by randy farmer, friend of chip morningstar and mark miller and ocap being used in agoric, which is chip morning star and mark miller... built on top of cosmos, which is web3.

Bluesky is web3 as well as stated by the CEO of bluesky, thus - same

@DavidBruchmann @cwebber

its just a question.
i have rarely seen such long statements and i just wonder ๐Ÿ™‚

i am not disagreeing with what she said, but it is long and way too polite imho.

apart from that, the connection i can see is spritely cofounded by randy farmer, friend of chip morningstar and mark miller and ocap being used in agoric, which is chip morning star and mark miller... built on top of cosmos, which is web3.

Nawer replied to ๐“ผ๐“ฎ๐“ป๐“ช๐“น๐“ช๐“ฝ๐“ฑใ€ใƒ„ใ€‘โ˜ฎ(๐Ÿ“๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง)

@serapath @DavidBruchmann @cwebber regarding human nature: the reason the blog and posts are so polite is cuz 1:this is a public place and 2:she knows someone who works at bluesky will read it.
I've worked on stuff in which I -know for a fact- I could dismember through direct analysis, but that usually leads to personal grudges and bad vibes if not explained properly and politely and maybe adding a bit of infantile sugar (no really, that's a good intention, you did great there! But)
Humans yknow

๐“ผ๐“ฎ๐“ป๐“ช๐“น๐“ช๐“ฝ๐“ฑใ€ใƒ„ใ€‘โ˜ฎ(๐Ÿ“๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง) replied to Nawer

@Nawer_Rapter @DavidBruchmann @cwebber i also know somebody who works at bluesky personally.
i am a bit disappoimted they do, but then again, its a good career opportunity and pays well, so i cant blame them.

but then again, they should know better.

goving clear advice to followers thougj feels more important, because those working in and on bluesky dont need adoptjon. they get paid anyway and they will find new jobs as well.

i think the bigger problem are the web3 investors who might watch

@Nawer_Rapter @DavidBruchmann @cwebber i also know somebody who works at bluesky personally.
i am a bit disappoimted they do, but then again, its a good career opportunity and pays well, so i cant blame them.

but then again, they should know better.

goving clear advice to followers thougj feels more important, because those working in and on bluesky dont need adoptjon. they get paid anyway and they will find new jobs as well.

damon replied to ๐“ผ๐“ฎ๐“ป๐“ช๐“น๐“ช๐“ฝ๐“ฑใ€ใƒ„ใ€‘โ˜ฎ(๐Ÿ“๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง)

@serapath Interesting that you come at someone that actually knows the people, politics and technologies on both sides. Also, very interesting to put Mastodon and Nostr in the same sentence as vast majority of Nostr stakeholders would tell you that Mastodon is not in fact decentralised

Jay replied to ๐“ผ๐“ฎ๐“ป๐“ช๐“น๐“ช๐“ฝ๐“ฑใ€ใƒ„ใ€‘โ˜ฎ(๐Ÿ“๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง)

@serapath @cwebber because bluesky is in the spotlight right now, has more users than mastodon and nostr combined and is being called "decentralized" when it isn't

๐“ผ๐“ฎ๐“ป๐“ช๐“น๐“ช๐“ฝ๐“ฑใ€ใƒ„ใ€‘โ˜ฎ(๐Ÿ“๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง) replied to Jay

@jaycalixto @cwebber which means it needs CLEAR and LOUD statements by those who understand imho.

why let ppl sleep walk into another decentralization theater scam?

Jay replied to ๐“ผ๐“ฎ๐“ป๐“ช๐“น๐“ช๐“ฝ๐“ฑใ€ใƒ„ใ€‘โ˜ฎ(๐Ÿ“๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง)

@serapath @cwebber we tried, but people assumed mastodon is too hard and refuse to join the fediverse. And if we insist they still won't join out of spite.

pravee_n replied to ๐“ผ๐“ฎ๐“ป๐“ช๐“น๐“ช๐“ฝ๐“ฑใ€ใƒ„ใ€‘โ˜ฎ(๐Ÿ“๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง)

@serapath @cwebber Why not give them space? Bluesky is the best social networking site currently for most people. Why are you even thinking that sheโ€™s got paid for it?! I use bluesky and itโ€™s a very well designed platform. Most people should use it instead of twitter. No platform on the fediverse that i know has a user-friendly design. For a large flux of users bluesky is best suited for them and its ok to talk about them!

๐“ผ๐“ฎ๐“ป๐“ช๐“น๐“ช๐“ฝ๐“ฑใ€ใƒ„ใ€‘โ˜ฎ(๐Ÿ“๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง) replied to pravee_n

@pravee_n @cwebber

lol.
why not go and stay on X or facebook then?

oh maybe because they are run by musk and zuck? ...twitter wasnt until it got bought and that can happen to bluesky as well. they will also add ads, they already announced. enshittification is guaranteed.

UI/UX on mastoson is great. tou say the vluesky one is better? thats really subjective. ...so kinda decentralization matters when it comes to FB and X ...but once it comes to nostr/blsky.. then its UX?

isnt that funny?

@pravee_n @cwebber

lol.
why not go and stay on X or facebook then?

oh maybe because they are run by musk and zuck? ...twitter wasnt until it got bought and that can happen to bluesky as well. they will also add ads, they already announced. enshittification is guaranteed.

UI/UX on mastoson is great. tou say the vluesky one is better? thats really subjective. ...so kinda decentralization matters when it comes to FB and X ...but once it comes to nostr/blsky.. then its UX?

pravee_n replied to ๐“ผ๐“ฎ๐“ป๐“ช๐“น๐“ช๐“ฝ๐“ฑใ€ใƒ„ใ€‘โ˜ฎ(๐Ÿ“๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง)

@serapath @cwebber The sign in experience and finding or following people on mastodon or fediverse is not a good ux. Itโ€™s a subject matter for many people. May be not for you. And you really think mastodon canโ€™t be bought? Hypothetically what happens if musk bought mastodon.social?

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