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Jon S. von Tetzchner

What is your favorite browser? Feel free to share why.

#Vivaldi #browser #Firefox #Edge #Chrome #Safari #Opera #Windows #Linux #macos #iOS #Android

Anonymous poll

Poll

Vivaldi
802
16%
Chrome
243
4.8%
Edge
101
2%
Safari
804
16%
Firefox
3,022
60.1%
Opera
53
1.1%
Other
643
12.8%
5,027 people voted.
Voting ended 19 November at 16:43.
16 November at 16:43 | Open on social.vivaldi.net
63 comments
John Francis

@jon Firefox for now, because of inertia, but the alternatives are definitely being considered.

16 November at 16:44 | Open on mastodon.social
Mike Fraser :Jets: :flag:

@johnefrancis @jon I gave Firefox a really good shot about six months ago but I found the performance a deal breaker. I'd recommend Vivaldi as that's what I settled on.

16 November at 16:49 | Open on thecanadian.social
John Francis

@mike @jon no complaints with Firefox performance on my 10yo Linux desktop. Slow to start the 1st time if I haven't de-snap'd it, but otherwise seems fine.

16 November at 17:35 | Open on mastodon.social
Vanack Sabbadium

@jon Librewolf. Based on Firefox but more lightweight. I'll never use a Chromium-based browser in my life anymore.

16 November at 16:46 | Open on livellosegreto.it
Mike :nixos:

@vanacksabbadium @jon I really enjoyed libre Wolf too. The resist fingerpronting stuff did get annoying in the real world though. It not knowing my time zone or dark mode preference annoyed me

16 November at 16:54 | Open on fosstodon.org
dale
Seirdy

@jon WeasyPrint because holy shit they wrote a browser in Python! It beats major browsers at CSS fragmentation and paged media. And with much better (far from perfect) PDF accessibility.

The browsers I use 99% of the time are not my favorites.

16 November at 16:47 | Open on pleroma.envs.net
Boerps ☑️

@jon
Mullvad
Based on Firefox, but lot more privacy.

16 November at 16:48 | Open on nrw.social
𝕂𝚞𝚋𝚒𝚔ℙ𝚒𝚡𝚎𝚕™
kevin

@jon no option for brave ? 🤔 otherwise i prefer firefox.

16 November at 16:49 | Open on fosstodon.org
shadowwwind

@jon Vivaldi on android is the only one that does tabs right IMO with the tab bar.
Firefox is nice because it's one of the only ones not using chromium or WebKit and with, finally, vertical tabs I am pretty happy using it on desktop again.
And Vivaldi and Zen Browser because of the amazing split screen feature.
But I prefer Zens sidebar tabs and the fact its also based on Gecko.

So for me it's Zen and Firefox on Desktop and Vivaldi on Android.
Which makes me unable to use sync :/

@jon Vivaldi on android is the only one that does tabs right IMO with the tab bar.
Firefox is nice because it's one of the only ones not using chromium or WebKit and with, finally, vertical tabs I am pretty happy using it on desktop again.
And Vivaldi and Zen Browser because of the amazing split screen feature.
But I prefer Zens sidebar tabs and the fact its also based on Gecko.

16 November at 16:50 | Open on fosstodon.org
Josh “Yoshi” Vickerson

@jon Firefox, despite Mozilla’s current trajectory because the Chromium monopoly will ultimately harm the web.

Hope to use @servo someday 🤞

16 November at 16:50 | Open on vickerson.me
Oblomov

@jon I was a long-time Opera aficionado, only dropped it when they switched to WebKit (and then Blink) and the last Presto-based version became obsolete (TLS-wise, mostly). Switched to Firefox, with which I'll stick as long as it maintains Gecko. Would love to jump to Vivaldi, but we need more independent rendering engines for the health of the web.

16 November at 16:50 | Open on sociale.network
Jeff

@jon I like Firefox and Vivaldi.

FF is totally open source and often renders fonts better than Chromium-based browsers and the PDF reader is more robust. I'm currently working through an online training module and it's the only PDF program that lets me highlight sectiins of tbe provided documentation and will remember changes when I save the document.

Vivaldi has a ton if features and is pretty quick and responsive, especially on Android. Still having odd issues with the mail client and I'm really not sure what to make of or do with the new dashboard though.

@jon I like Firefox and Vivaldi.

FF is totally open source and often renders fonts better than Chromium-based browsers and the PDF reader is more robust. I'm currently working through an online training module and it's the only PDF program that lets me highlight sectiins of tbe provided documentation and will remember changes when I save the document.

16 November at 16:52 | Open on social.vivaldi.net
Mike :nixos:

@jon It changes from time to time, but I do keep coming back to Firefox. It fits like a glove in Linux, has good dev tools and is configurable enough

16 November at 16:53 | Open on fosstodon.org
HyperSoop :spinny_cat_aroace: :spinny_fox_agender:
bruhSoulz :catjam: :eve:

@jon ehh probably firefox cus thanks to its existence i have ff forks lol, i use librewolf and now trying out #zenbrowser. zen's pretty damn sweet!

16 November at 16:56 | Open on mastodon.social
Tawanda :go:

@jon Zen browser currently takes the cake for me. I think it's the best looking + Firefox multi account containers are especially important for me

16 November at 16:56 | Open on hachyderm.io
phrwn

@jon Librewolf: not Chromium, but also minus whatever bullshit Mozilla is injecting into Firefox this week.

16 November at 16:58 | Open on mastodon.social
lxskllr

@jon

Firefox because it isn't chromium, and I just like it. With chromium, google controls the web. Doesn't matter what kind of wrapper a third party puts on it. It's still chromium and it's still google.

16 November at 17:00 | Open on mastodon.world
Jerry on PieFed

Firefox because only it supports (via an extension) having different sessions in different tabs, so I can log into 3 different accounts at the same website at the same time and use the same browser window for all of them. I need this and won't move to a different browser.

16 November at 17:01 | Open on feddit.online
🍵 holly

@jon Orion! We got a kagi subscription a while back and I enjoyed it so much I decided to try their browser. It blocks youtube ads on all my devices, so it's a keeper

16 November at 17:06 | Open on social.v.st
Jamie Allison

@jon I was a vivaldi user, and still am, but recently Floorp has won me over. I've been using it full time for the last month, and I'm very happy with it.

floorp.app/en

16 November at 17:06 | Open on mastodon.social
Trinsec

@dbug13@mastodon.social @jon@social.vivaldi.net Interesting. So is this basically the Vivaldi of browsers with a Firefox engine? ;)

16 November at 17:10 | Open on trinsec.org
🏁⚡Omar Two Tone⚡🏁:verified:
kjetiljd
exitcode

@jon Firefox because not chromium based. Vivaldi out of all chromium based

16 November at 17:17 | Open on fosstodon.org
Skaifer

@jon Vivaldi and Zen browsers. Cuz I like customizability. Zen feels faster though. Vivaldi and Fennec on Android.

16 November at 17:17 | Open on social.vivaldi.net
Siathes

Has anyone tried floorp? I’ve been using it and it seems good with side tabs. Any others with opinion (good or bad) about it?

16 November at 17:20 | Open on lemmy.dbzer0.com
thesdev

@jon Firefox on Android supports extensions, wish Vivaldi did the same!

16 November at 17:25 | Open on social.vivaldi.net
thesdev

@jon I'm positive it's been done with Chromium before too, by the Kiwi browser.

16 November at 17:26 | Open on social.vivaldi.net
Jon S. von Tetzchner

@thesdev , we did give it a try, but found that it would require a lot of work to keep it up to date. We have instead focused on building capabilities into Vivaldi which are the main reasons people want extensions.

16 November at 17:59 | Open on social.vivaldi.net
Germán Enríquez

@jon
I use #Zen because its #Firefox without the drama. Plus workspaces!

16 November at 17:28 | Open on techhub.social
Jon S. von Tetzchner

@geillescas , I have not tried them, but it looks like they have taken some inspiration from Vivaldi. Even marketing.

16 November at 18:01 | Open on social.vivaldi.net
Germán Enríquez

@jon
The marketing bit that convinced me was: "you can log in with your existing Firefox Sync account without any hassle"

16 November at 18:06 | Open on techhub.social
Random Tux User :fedora:

@jon
For me I use both Vivaldi and firefox.

I like Vivaldi cause its all about customizability and has decent privacy.

I like firefox because it doesn't have to have chromiums bad choices (not including jpegxl, manifest v3, etc). Of the course the defaults aren't the best, but it is also very customizable (even if its harder to customize than Vivaldi).

16 November at 17:28 | Open on fosstodon.org
P4

@jon Opera from before the switch to chromium remains my favorite to this day, every browser I've used since doesn't feel as feature complete or as fun as Opera did.

16 November at 17:33 | Open on masto.ai
Jon S. von Tetzchner

@p4 , I am very proud of what we built at Opera at that time, but you will find that and more in Vivaldi now.

16 November at 17:57 | Open on social.vivaldi.net
djbiker

@jon I'm a Vivaldi supporter since V1. Because of open privacy (MV3) and open finger printing support I use more & more FF and Zen in the last months ... ;-( But I love Vivaldi, great team support and the Vivaldi style

16 November at 17:37 | Open on social.vivaldi.net
jdkiser :openbsd:
Yuki Linux

@jdkiser @jon @zenbrowser it doesn’t have better privacy though it’s not even close they won’t implement Libre wolfs changes in any degree so they’re worse than brave but slightly better than stock Firefox lol. 

16 November at 17:56 | Open on mastodon.social
jdkiser :openbsd:

@eliteamdgamer @jon @zenbrowser Both support uBlock Origin and score 100/100 on adblock-tester.com whereas Vivaldi can only get into the high 90's with a lot of tweaking.

16 November at 18:06 | Open on social.sdf.org
Krzysztof Hankiewicz (he/him)

@jdkiser @eliteamdgamer @jon @zenbrowser Hm, this is without any tweaking, just the default ad+tracking blocking.
16 November at 19:22 | Open on social.vivaldi.net
Dan Walsh
Daniel Ligon

@jon

I use multiple profiles of both Vivaldi and Firefox each day.

The Firefox profiles are each focused on particular use-cases -- one for each bank, for example.

I use Vivaldi for more general browsing. And as a tab hoarder, I love how it handles tabs.

16 November at 17:52 | Open on hachyderm.io
Kevin

@jon Vivaldi & Firefox for philosophical reasons ;-)

16 November at 17:53 | Open on mastodon.social
crabbypup

@jon I don't have a favorite browser at the moment. The one I currently use is brave, but there are several things about it that I don't like.

I've yet to find a browser that doesn't break my workflow in a critical way that also isn't brave.

I have several manifest v2 extensions that I'm not going to be giving up.

So until a browser has a tab discard mechanism that can be configured to not auto un-discard a tab on focus, and has a way to force immediate discarding, brave is where I stay.

16 November at 17:56 | Open on fosstodon.org
Ex Ef Ex

@jon Vivaldi loyal since its early days for its customisability and ear to the user, even though I find its hosting of user accounts quite glitchy.

16 November at 17:57 | Open on social.vivaldi.net
cerement

@jon

asking us to vote between:
- Chrome
- Chrome
- Chrome
- Safari
- Firefox
- Chrome
- other (but mostly Chrome)

16 November at 17:58 | Open on social.targaryen.house
SajalGhosh

Hi @jon

As a technology enthusiast, I’d like to share my perspective on this.

Firefox has been my go-to browser for a while, mainly because of:

1. Multi-Account Containers: Perfect for managing multiple profiles or accounts seamlessly.
2. RAM Efficiency: It’s lightweight and doesn’t hog system resources.
3. Privacy Focus: With its 100% open-source nature and stellar reputation as a privacy-first browser, it’s hard to beat.

Vivaldi, on the other hand, has a special place in my heart for its unique and productivity-oriented features:

1. Page Tiling: A brilliant tool for working with multiple pages side by side—ideal for multitaskers.
2. Plain Text/Markdown Notes: This feature is a gem for academic researchers and avid readers like me, making it easy to jot down notes directly from web pages.
3. Web Panels: Super handy for accessing frequently used sites without leaving your main tabs.
4. Customizable Dashboard: A lovely productivity hub and a virtual assistant.

A Few Observations

While Vivaldi excels in many areas, there are a couple of things I’d like to highlight:

High RAM Usage: Vivaldi can be quite demanding on memory.
Text-to-Speech Feature: Adding a natural and seamless "Read Aloud" feature would make it even more user-friendly.

Cheers 😊

Hi @jon

As a technology enthusiast, I’d like to share my perspective on this.

Firefox has been my go-to browser for a while, mainly because of:

1. Multi-Account Containers: Perfect for managing multiple profiles or accounts seamlessly.
2. RAM Efficiency: It’s lightweight and doesn’t hog system resources.
3. Privacy Focus: With its 100% open-source nature and stellar reputation as a privacy-first browser, it’s hard to beat.

16 November at 17:59 | Open on social.vivaldi.net
Yuki Linux

@jon Floorp or firedragon. They give me the customization. firedragon has the Librawolf privacy script implemented.  They both have the speed hacks implemented with the push of a button if that’s your thing. 

But at the end of the day, every single browser sucks so pick your poison. None of them are good. They either are gecko or blink with some sugar on top.

Yes, I know servo and LadyBird are coming, but they’re not here yet so they’re not part of the discussion 

16 November at 18:00 | Open on mastodon.social
Paradox

@jon I like Firefox as a platform, but don't like it as a browser

16 November at 18:00 | Open on lor.sh
Michael⚡️⚗️🕹
lachralle

@jon
@Vivaldi is my favorite because it gets so much right, right out of the box and is made by good people.

16 November at 18:13 | Open on social.vivaldi.net
I see Dud people!

@jon Currently using Chromium on my PCs and Waterfox on my Android.

16 November at 18:20 | Open on mas.to
Force of Habit

@jon It is like fashion. I switch between WebKit and Gecko.

16 November at 18:28 | Open on infosec.exchange
tTh
Nia

@jon Firefox on Desktop, Vivaldi on mobile.

Vivaldi is close for me on Mobile because it works really well, but I'm using the Fennec version of Firefox from F-droid currently and it's a favorite, with Vivaldi close behind. Close on mobile because it's the second closest thing for me on privacy goals, and Firefox & forks on Android are a bit buggy.

Firefox (preferably forks) on desktop fully because of the UI being open source, no slight against Vivaldi for that, I fully understand the reasoning for not doing so. I just prefer open source so I bias towards as much as possible of it when not overly difficult to do so.

I do not trust Mozilla, more open source nature of the app allows me to take trust of ownership out of the equation a bit, especially so with forks.

@jon Firefox on Desktop, Vivaldi on mobile.

Vivaldi is close for me on Mobile because it works really well, but I'm using the Fennec version of Firefox from F-droid currently and it's a favorite, with Vivaldi close behind. Close on mobile because it's the second closest thing for me on privacy goals, and Firefox & forks on Android are a bit buggy.

16 November at 18:39 | Open on social.vivaldi.net
ollie

@jon safari and Firefox. Alternative to chromium-based browsers.

16 November at 19:25 | Open on social.noleron.com
Григорий Клюшников

I use Vivaldi but I would really like to see more attention to quality. Breaking things randomly in minor releases and then taking half a year to fix them is not okay, guys. A public issue tracker would also help, instead of the scream-into-the-void bug report form. I understand that you've taken everything from the old Opera team, but this part should've been left behind.

16 November at 19:41
Jeff

@grishka @jon Not being able to see bug progress is annoying. I've also found the forum to not always be the friendliest or most useful place to look for help.

17 November at 1:29 | Open on social.vivaldi.net
Martijn Vos
Firefox right now, and pretty happy with it, but Vivaldi is increasingly starting to sound like a contender.
17 November at 0:23 | Open on friendica.opensocial.space
labria

@jon I’m currently trying Zen, which is FF inside and Arc outside, basically.
Re: why, I think Chrome is the new IE6, and we need more engines to keep the web open

18 November at 12:46 | Open on social.yeschenko.com
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