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 @jwildeboer IRC wins for discussions by not requiring anything. You want to chat? Click the JavaScript client link and chat. You can install a optional client if you plan to chat often. You don't need to register or provide any personal details. Matrix/Discord etc all fail with onboarding and high hardware requirements for a client. I can sign into IRC using any computer with networking, even obsolete hardware. NetBSD on a Apple llc, IRC on a palm pilot. Take your pick. 4 comments
@muvlon @jwildeboer As stated earlier. Message history is not a required feature. You simply never go into a social event and ask people for their discussion history for the evening. I don't know why people using irc think this should be the norm. If you want message history, there are frequently logs for heavily used channels. Let me ask this question, do you read _every_ line of text that was written while you were absent? And then I'd ask "Do you _need_ to read every line?"  @miah @jwildeboer No, I don't read every line, but I read a lot of scrollback. And I did run my own bouncer for almost the entire time I was using IRC. And when I didn't, it felt like a decidedly "second class" experience.  @miah @jwildeboer with Matrix - yeah, it's a bit more involved, but you can join from *any* Matrix instance, if you have found one you trust. It's #libre technology, so it's consistent with libre dev. Discord is a non-starter for libre projects in my opinion. I agree with you Jan - wrote this a while back: https://davelane.nz/notslack |
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@miah @jwildeboer Sure, IRC runs on anything, but it still doesn't work for most people. I say this as somebody who's spent over a decade on IRC.
To get the very, very basic, not at all optional feature "message history", you need to run a bouncer. Which is a tall order for most people.
The amount of people on computers too slow for Matrix is much smaller than the amount of people who can't/won't run a bouncer.