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InsertUser

@osm_tech Is there a button to toggle between light and dark somewhere?

InsertUser

@osm_tech isn't that a global setting though.

I generally prefer dark mode but not if it's going to reduce contrast on all the map tiles.

OpenStreetMap Ops Team

@InsertUser Yes global setting. A compromise had to be made. Best route is likely to help create a dark theme style for our vector tiles.

InsertUser

@osm_tech I guess I'll have to choose a dedicated browser for browsing OSM.org and disable dark mode in that browser.

jimkats

@InsertUser @osm_tech Same. I just opened the site and even though I like dark theme in many websites and platforms, in the main OSM site currently it just doesn't look great, especially when it darkens the map tiles. It makes it difficult to use.

OpenStreetMap Ops Team

@jimkats @InsertUser Incremental improvements will be made over time. OpenStreetMap.org is built by volunteers.

jimkats

@osm_tech @InsertUser I know that very well, don't worry. I just state my opinion with the first usage of this feature I just had. I'm sure something will come in the future when the availability comes.

scy

@osm_tech Yay for the site, menus, profiles, diaries etc., these look great now!

But simply dimming the tiles down? That doesn't feel like a dark mode to me. I mean, it's a start, maybe, but to me it just feels like something is obscuring the map all the time. How do I even turn this off?

OpenStreetMap Ops Team

@scy There isn't an OSM.org UI option to turn it off yet. Dark Mode is enabled if detected by developer.mozilla.org/en-US/do Our current raster tile infrastructure would not be able to handle another tile style. We have an alpha vector tiles under development, dark mode style would be a nice feature extension.

scy

@osm_tech Thanks for the quick and helpful response! ❀️

I mean, maybe it's just me who's having trouble with how the tiles are looking now. I totally understand that a new style would take a lot of resources, both infrastructure- and effort-wise, and I don't have anything to propose. But for me, the reduced contrast is kind of problematic.

A UI to disable _just_ the tile dimming, or configure its amount, would be really useful. Disabling dark mode for the whole browser isn't really an option β€¦

mxdanger

@scy @osm_tech Not even an option, just removing the dimming all together would be ideal.

Gustav Lindqvist πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ͺ

@osm_tech did you consider accessibility when you launched this? This made contrast worse across the board.

InsertUser

@osm_tech
That thread showed examples with hue adjusted inverted colours that maintained contrast. The version I see in my browser is just like there's a dark grey overlay.

Am I seeing a bug rather than what's intended?
@gustav

A comparison of the darkened tiles on OpenStreetMap.org (left) vs the plain tiles in JOSM (right)
scy

@InsertUser @osm_tech @gustav Hell yeah, the examples in that GitHub issue look _awesome_. And they don't need separate tilesets or whatever, it's just a filter. Can we have _that_, please?

(I also looked for the PR that caused the change that's currently live, but couldn't find it.)

InsertUser

@scy
The one downside to that is that it will make hillshades look weird. Still better on balance I think.
@osm_tech @gustav

Alan Grant

@InsertUser @scy @osm_tech @gustav Is this the PR? github.com/openstreetmap/opens

I don't think it attempted to implemented any of those filters. But I'm not sure where the dimming or gray overlay comes from.

scy

@alan @InsertUser @osm_tech @gustav The dimming is from here:

github.com/openstreetmap/opens

I have created github.com/openstreetmap/opens as a possible quick fix, which is imho better than reverting the change. But reverting, on the other hand, would be better than leaving it dimmed like it is now.

Jonas

@osm_tech can you please add a toggle button? Unfortunately, this change makes it unusable for me otherwise, without setting the whole browser to light mode, which is hard for me for accessibility reasons.

Ceirios

@osm_tech Sorry, but while I welcome the addition of a darkmode for UI, dimming the map has made it completely really hard for me to use, bordering on impossible.

The History button has also been moved to a text button, was this intentional?

mxdanger

@osm_tech Terrible idea to launch with the dimmed map! Hopefully that gets removed soon.

tobych

@osm_tech This is awful. Please roll this back. The map is unusable. Sure, UI elements, make them dark, whatever. But dimming the map like this? Utterly ridiculous.

William Denton

@osm_tech I like dark mode sometimes, but I don't want it on OSM maps. Please give me an easy way in the web site to choose whether it's on or off.

#OpenStreetMap

OpenStreetMap Ops Team

@wdenton Give us a few days. Currently it is always enabled if Dark Mode is globally enabled on your device/computer.

Sai Phanindra

@osm_tech I thought I was on the wrong site and was confused for a while lol

morganist

@osm_tech dark ui is absolutely stunning! i didn't know i needed it on the osm website, but it was a very pleasant surprise

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