@RadicalEdward Oh dear.

I worked at Sun for a year in 1994, and Java was kicking around inside the company (I used to skate at the Sun-employee pickup hockey game every week with McNealy and Naughton, so I heard a bit about Java in the locker room).

I gave that early version of Java a spin, but then they changed it a fair bit before it got out into the wild rendering a good chunk of what I learned useless. So I gave up on Java and eased my way into embedded C, which along with Verilog, was enough to keep me in work to retirement last year. As a 40 or so year vi user, I'm with the husband on this one.