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Dave Anderson

The details are fuzzy, but I remember I was still a mid-level player with a ship whose main asset was affordability and opportunities to amass enough money to get the really nice ships.

I was rescued by an Anaconda, the third most expensive ship in the game according to the wiki. The insurance payment on it alone was more than my entire game net worth at the time. In naval terms, it's like a 300ft superyacht coming to the rescue of a rusty fishing trawler.

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Dave Anderson replied to Dave

I remember it because seeing the Anaconda slowly pull up to a stop outside my windshield and fire fuel limpets (a) looked incredible in VR out the panoramic cockpit of my rubbish little freighter and (b) this was a player who clearly had the resources to do whatever they felt like in this game, nothing was off limits. And they chose to spend their evening hanging out at the IRC equivalent of the fire house with other like-minded people, running some gas cans to people in need.

That's just neat!

⁂ Justin (StayGrounded.online) replied to Dave

@danderson It's interesting to see what sort of things humans put their effort into when survival/comfort isn't dependent on it.

Sometimes I think about how if money was removed from everyone's equation, being a waiter at a greasy spoon diner would be a really fun job!

JKB replied to Dave

@danderson As a whole I have a very positive opinion of the Elite Dangerous players community, but indeed the Fuel Rats may be the most wholesome emergent gameplay this game has seen.

mav :happy_blob: replied to Dave

@danderson wow, I really like the whole idea of this. In fact, I almost want to play it just to get involved. That sounds amazingly cathartic.

I keep thinking of the fact that in Fallout 4 one of the most fun things to do is build these incredibly cool, survivable settlements (which the NPCs never take advantage of, but still, one can dream)

TheDarkPreacher :twitch: replied to Dave

@danderson I do believe the Fuel Rats now have carriers to help with extreme long haul rescue, and people bring them fuel donations whenever they are parked back in the bubble.

Gods love the Fuel Rats.

Fred replied to Dave

@danderson "We have fuel. You don't. Any questions?"

Got to love them.

Lazarou Monkey Terror πŸš€πŸ’™πŸŒˆ replied to Dave

@danderson The Anaconda was a great ship for deep space in Elite II Frontier as I recall.

Misuse Case replied to Dave

@danderson I play in a text-based MUD where we have something similar. Priests who can perform a resurrection ritual will come to the aid of dead players but there’s also a club of people who will retrieve players’ corpses (and their stuff) from dangerous locations.

If you want someone to rescue your corpse you have to permit them to take stuff off your corpse. You’d think people would be hesitant to trust strangers with this.

/1

Misuse Case replied to Misuse

@danderson But they’re not, you just call up someone from the Rescue & Resurrect Unit and you know they will go into tricky situations for you and give you all your stuff back.

While it’s customary to give priests and RRU people a decent amount of in-game money it is not required and nobody minds if you don’t.

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Misuse Case replied to Misuse

@danderson There are also class-affiliated organizations that give starter kits to newbie players who join their class. It’s just a thing people do.

/end

wirehead replied to Dave

@danderson In the Voron community, there's the "Rescue Ravens" (they wanted to call them Rescue Rats in reference to Fuel Rats but they concluded it might be too confusing) who are there to get your open source 3D printer back up and running by any means necessary in basically the same fashion, except that we're talking about something that's IRL.

JP replied to Dave

@danderson thanks for the storytelling! No Man's Sky had something a bit similar to this, back when you couldn't just travel to anywhere in the galaxy with portals. and the practice remained for a while longer, because there's a particular galaxy (Odyalutai, galaxy 256) that you can only get to by joining the session of another player already there. but the Elite thing is way cooler and more in-fiction and socially emergent.

Keir replied to Dave

@danderson I have had to use their services before and was both incredibly impressed and incredibly thankful to them. It’s a fantastic example of community in MMO’s 🫢🏻

Tor Kingdon replied to Dave

@danderson I love this whole story. Makes me want to invest a lot of time that I don't have and probably money that I can't afford into becoming a Fuel Rat.

Primo replied to Dave

@danderson thank you, that really was a read I needed without knowing.

Lily Ingersoll / Briar replied to Dave

@danderson that's wonderful. Thank you for sharing this - I kind of needed it right now

Emma (has_many_books of old) replied to Dave

@danderson My son was rescued by a fuel rat once and I felt so blessed and grateful that he got to witness the absolute best of humanity

Eddie Clay And replied to Dave

@danderson I have never played Elite, and I am ready to launch myself across space with a crowbar.

"Oh, shite, it's that mad g jumper from planet Saskatoon !"

"Dude, I told you don't fuck with the fuel rats!"

Beko Pharm replied to Dave

@danderson there's something in my eyes πŸ₯Ή

Frazzle πŸŽˆπŸ“ŒπŸ€ replied to Dave

@danderson Thank you for this trip down Memory Lane. 8 years ago, when I was still playing, I ran out of gas in my brand new Anaconda, gravely misjudging how costly the jumps the Anaconda could pull would be. I had played forever to scrounge up enough ingame funds to buy this ship, and I was so proud - and now it was about to blow up from ...running out of fuel (my cartoonist mind loves this fact though 🀣). ->

Frazzle πŸŽˆπŸ“ŒπŸ€ replied to Frazzle

-> I heard of the Fuel Rats before, and thought it was a neat way to play - though I never quite understood the problem, being a Bubble Skipper on smaller ships. I will never forget how I clicked the Distress button, talked to the dispatcher - while time was slowly running out. When I was contacted through radio in-game, I hardly believed it. Then all of a sudden, three or four ships pulled up to mine, and friendly rats filled her up enough to get home. Helped me plot a safe course. ->

Frazzle πŸŽˆπŸ“ŒπŸ€ replied to Frazzle

-> I was impressed and amazed. Drew this as a little thank-you gift back then (hanging out with them for a while showed there was some Snickers running gag. It's a rat thing...):

Nicolas :eisfunke_logo: replied to Dave

@danderson Beautiful write-up! I should play E:D again some time :D

Sparkwave replied to Dave

@danderson Ah yes, the fuel rats, even despite everything they're still resilliently helping people, kinda makes me want to play this game again

Miah Johnson replied to Dave

@danderson there is a similar group in EVE Online. Three is no fuel to worry about in EVE but if you go into a wormhole without a probe scanner and probes you probably won't find your way home. But the group EVE-Scout leaves emergency cargo containers with probes, and scanners so you can return.

evescoutrescue.com/home/esrc.p

βœ¨γƒ‘γƒƒγƒ„γ‚©βœ¨ :sabakan: :mastodont: replied to Dave

@danderson Thank you for sharing :neocat_thumbsup: I have nothing to do with Elite:Dangerous and I don't think I ever will, but I enjoyed reading about this :neocat_happy:

Tombfyre replied to Dave

@danderson @RavenWorks There's also the Hull Seals, who do much the same thing but for emergency repairs. I expect there's some overlap between the two groups. ^.==.^

ParzivalWolfram replied to Tombfyre

@Tombfyre @danderson @RavenWorks Both groups have what seem to be fairly strict certification programs (all of the docs for this are online) and the Hull Seals at least have a fast track program to go from one group to the other, and they seem to collaborate in some situations. hullseals.space/knowledge/book

Teknikal_Domain replied to Dave

@danderson me, seeing this as a "former" fuel rats dispatcher:

Eleanor LNR Blair replied to Dave

@danderson thank you for this thread, which is utterly delightful. Your love of it shines through your writing.

The Doctor replied to Dave
Gallen πŸ”œ EF replied to Dave

@danderson
What would happen if fuel rats didn't exist in the game? Would u just.... die and respawn?

GothPanda replied to Gallen πŸ”œ EF

@sequentialsnep @danderson that's the only mechanism the game actually expects you to use in that situation. But, they have put in the tools for this kinda gameplay

Frost, Wolffucker 🐺:therian: replied to Gallen πŸ”œ EF

@sequentialsnep @danderson Yep!

...After spending 5 minutes on emergency oxygen, choking to death, and then your ship spontaneously exploding as you die.

(Source: Didn't know about the Fuel Rats. >,,> Well, we'd heard of them, but didn't know that they were a player group we needed to visit their website and call, so I just went "hello? anybody out there?" in local chat as the timer ran out...)

After you die, you just pay a flat 5% of the value of your ship (ship itself + all modules). (You also lose any exploration data you were carrying and hadn't sold yet.)

@sequentialsnep @danderson Yep!

...After spending 5 minutes on emergency oxygen, choking to death, and then your ship spontaneously exploding as you die.

(Source: Didn't know about the Fuel Rats. >,,> Well, we'd heard of them, but didn't know that they were a player group we needed to visit their website and call, so I just went "hello? anybody out there?" in local chat as the timer ran out...)

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