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Steinar Bang

Funny!

(but not strictly true anymore for linux users...)

(probably still true for cyclists, though...)

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Phel

@steinarb Nowadays it's Windows users and worrying about security issues with outdated drivers

Dr Adrian Simmons

@steinarb
Yep, with the possible exception of Linux users with nvidia graphics.

Xenophon

@adrinux Can confirm. I'm on Ubuntu and using proprietary Nvidia drivers... I'm just lucky when they decide to work. Every time they're updated, I just blindly follow along and hope nothing is too irrevocably screwed.

jer

@adrinux @steinarb

Do a web search for "linus torvalds nvidia photo". Link relevant, one of many results.

wired.com/2012/06/torvalds-nvi

Wesley Cook ⚡🚲

@steinarb Just had issues running a game last night because it wasn't recognizing my graphics card (kept using integrated graphics). I tried updating the drivers, and then my screen went completely black and wouldn't come back on. I eventually had to force a restart and pray it finished installing correctly or else my computer would probably be borked.

When it turned back on everything was fine, and the game ran perfectly. So yeah, no worries about drivers over here 😅 (except when I'm on my bike)

@steinarb Just had issues running a game last night because it wasn't recognizing my graphics card (kept using integrated graphics). I tried updating the drivers, and then my screen went completely black and wouldn't come back on. I eventually had to force a restart and pray it finished installing correctly or else my computer would probably be borked.

simendsjo

@steinarb sure, there are more hardware, but drivers will be an issue as long as it's not a first class priority by vendors. I just bought two devices in order to improve the driver situation after being shamed when it didn't work just plugging in. This was during a job interview which made it especially bad. Drivers keep being an achilles heel.

Steinar Bang

@simendsjo Here is my reason for saying drivers isn't a problem.

Except for having to get a backported kernel when I bought this laptop in 2022 to get support for the WLAN/bluetooth chip, everything has worked flawlessly, with daily suspend/resume and reboots mainly on kernel changes (and the odd libc and similar change, but they usually come at the same time).

So my own experience colors my opinions....
steinar.bang.priv.no/2022/07/3

(currently running 12.8 "bookworm")

@simendsjo Here is my reason for saying drivers isn't a problem.

Except for having to get a backported kernel when I bought this laptop in 2022 to get support for the WLAN/bluetooth chip, everything has worked flawlessly, with daily suspend/resume and reboots mainly on kernel changes (and the odd libc and similar change, but they usually come at the same time).

simendsjo

@steinarb 6.11.6 and 6.11.7 don't work for me. The wifi won't wake from sleep with a timeout message. Every device under the sun has Windows support, but Linux support is an afterthought if it exists at all. Many times it's reverse engineered by volunteers. At least drivers are one of my biggest issues. All too easy getting a device without working drivers.

Steinar Bang

@simendsjo Yeah, maybe I was just lucky.

But it has been two years now of trouble free operation, with daily use, where everything I've tried on the laptop works: video, sound, wifi, bluetooth (MX master mouse in daily usage, Jabra Solemate mini almost daily, streaming music).

So I have basically forgotten that issues might exist... sorry about that!

("works on my machine!", as the saying goes...)

simendsjo

@steinarb my Lenovo laptops has also been working great, but it has all been Intel wireless, and I have never tested all hardware features (e.g. infrared camera or fingerprint reader.) But I agree it's a lot better than it used to be. I think my latest issue was DisplayLink in a meeting room, which only has vendor drivers packaged for Ubuntu. So I need to add support for my distro.

Steinar Bang

@snaggen (well... truth to tell that was exactly me back in the summer of 2022, when I was buying a new laptop... but as the blog post referred to otherwise in the thread my fear were put to shame. But I guess I was just lucky, maybe...?)

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