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myrmepropagandist

@gavi

Yes. They are more typically called ants. Though there are also a few wingless wasps that are NOT ants. For example: Myrmilloides grandiceps who is very cute, but can also sting and she is a parasite of bees.

Myrmilloides grandiceps, a wingless wasp who looks a lot like a very cute ant. She has black dots for eyes and mandibles that are like a shy smile. She is reddish brown and covered in fuzzy sparse hair. 

This wasp lives in the US and can be found in arid regions. She can squeak when angered.
A cool crab wearing shades

@futurebird @gavi and the infamous Cow Killer Ant, which is a wingless wasp with a notoriously painful sting

myrmepropagandist

@neckspike @gavi

Don't forget to mention how cute they are too!

A cool crab wearing shades

@futurebird @gavi THEY ARE THEY ARE SO FLUFFY AND PRETTY AND LOOK NICE TO PET BUT YOU SHOULDN'T

GhostOnTheHalfShell

@futurebird @gavi

Somehow, I feel less guilty of misplacing my iPad stylus every other day.

Loren

@futurebird can we hear more about the squeaking??

myrmepropagandist

@loren

It's a kind of stridulation. A warning sound. I have not found any recordings of it (they are woefully understudied) but it's probably similar to this:

youtu.be/WbeetqZk6mE

Loren

@futurebird whoaaa can other wasps make noise? or ants?

myrmepropagandist

@loren

There are several ants who can squeak too. It's not typical. They tend to be more basal things like Dinoponera I think. Dinoponera are very "waspy"

tuban_muzuru

@futurebird @gavi

Insect taxonomy drives me crazy. Are all the ants under Formicidae?

myrmepropagandist

@tuban_muzuru @gavi

Yes. But there are a number of wingless wasps that have "ant" in their common name.

And of course all ants *are* wasps.

Bruce Heerssen

@futurebird @tuban_muzuru @gavi
Do you know if the entire wasp family (clade? I don't know the right term) started out as flying insects, and then some lost their wings and became ants? Or was there some other evolutionary path?

myrmepropagandist

@bruce @tuban_muzuru @gavi

The common ancestor of bees, ants and other wasps absolutely had wings. And that's why queen ants tend to nearly always have wings, as do most of the male wingless wasps.

Jeremy Kahn

@futurebird @tuban_muzuru @gavi

this is like learning that all birds are dinosaurs

🀯

myrmepropagandist

@gavi I was trying not to be too obvious about making things about ants again... thought "wingless wasp" was a nice way to get around that... I

I guess it didn't really work.

helplessduck

@futurebird

I followed for the ants, but I stayed for the the show.

@gavi

Josh :everything_bagel:

@futurebird @gavi if you wanted to not be obvious about making things about ants, you might want to post from an alt…

gavi

@futurebird I love ants it’s ok. All ant propaganda is welcome here

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