@b0rk i actually didn't realize readline was something that got used in things like bash, or even really a library you can just use, i never thought too hard about why rlwrap was called that and just thought "that's the thing you run to use readline"

maybe a tool i wrote for work should have readline shoved into it... 🤔

@b0rk zle (zsh's custom line editor) is a thing of horrible, fantastic beauty

@b0rk I remember an interview with Brian Fox where he said that Readline was one of the things he was most proud when he finished developing Bash.

@b0rk "libedit (which is like readline but worse)"

😂

I feel this in my bones though. I know it's a bad idea, but I've stayed on python3.10 specifically because 3.11 has transition to libedit and it's ruined my muscle memory.

@b0rk There is a reason why a lot of Mac users install #MacPorts or #Homebrew!
However, you can blame GPL 3.0 for the current situation. Under GLP 2.0 Apple could provide OSS packages w/o giving away their core OS technology to Richard Stallman for free.

@b0rk I've used control-A for decades, and only last year learned about Control-E.

Just keep learning!

@b0rk maybe mention that with set -o vi you get from weird emacs to weird vi keys

@b0rk I did not know about rlwrap. (I did know about readline, this image is great, and "readline but worse" is totally reasonable commentary)

@ed1conf `rlwrap ed` is basically quick'n'dirty en/ex enhancements for `ed(1)`. I'm probably still going to just use vanilla ed(1), but having the arrow keys work was interesting.

@b0rk My personal taxonomy puts prompt_toolkit (the custom lib used by ipython) at the same level as readline and libedit.

It's a reusable component, and it definitely aims to be the Python version of readline. I've used it to add line editing to a personal project and I quite like it.