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Strypey

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China also has twice the population of the whole of Europe. That graph might be more insightful if the figures were per capita.

8 Jul 2022 at 5:02 | Wall-to-wall | Open on mastodon.nzoss.nz
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Yogthos

@strypey China has far lower power consumption per capita than Europe though

8 Jul 2022 at 10:08 | Open on mas.to
Strypey

@yogthos You're making my point for me, which is that comparing raw figures from renewables generation between countries doesn’t compare apples with apples. Aotearoa is at about 82% but if you compared our total output to larger countries with a lower percentage, you could create the impression they're doing better than us.

11 Jul 2022 at 2:55 | Open on mastodon.nzoss.nz
Yogthos

@strypey so the context here is that China is producing far more renewable energy than all of Europe, and it has lower power consumption per capita.

11 Jul 2022 at 16:28 | Open on mas.to
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@yogthos And furthermore, a significative part of the Chinese energy consumption is to produce goods for European consumers.

@strypey

12 Jul 2022 at 5:15 | Open on pouet.it
trianderror

@yogthos @strypey
...and yet China has by far the largest CO2 emissions worldwide:
statista.com/statistics/270499
"[...] China is currently the world's largest carbon polluter [...]."
"Since 2000, per capita CO2 emissions in China have roughly tripled. In comparison, per capita emissions in the west have noticeably dropped."
So: although China is far from being a "green" country, I acknowledge their effort.

12 Jul 2022 at 5:18 | Open on social.snopyta.org
Strypey

@yogthos
Ok, but there's some maths to be done to see if all that translates into a larger proportion of electricity coming from renewables in China than in Europe. Does the lower per capita electricity use balance out the much higher population, or not? What would a graph that factored in that part of the data look like?

13 Jul 2022 at 10:06 | Open on mastodon.nzoss.nz
Yogthos

@strypey saying that there's more people living in China than in Europe is not really meaningful, it's the per capita use that matters.

Also worth noting that the reason China is producing more clean energy than Europe now is because they have a concrete plan for moving off fossils that's being actively implemented. These are the results.

13 Jul 2022 at 13:57 | Open on mas.to
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