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Bruno Nicoletti

@cstross @Longspeak @JeremyGraeme That’s assuming there still is a NATO 18 months after a Trump
win. He’s already made noises about walking away from the alliance. Not that it wouldn’t still be a shitshow with a nuclear armed France and UK.

3 November at 21:14 | Wall-to-wall | Open on mstdn.social
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gavinisdie :troll:

@bjn @cstross @Longspeak @JeremyGraeme it will probably still exist, but qithout the US

3 November at 21:42 | Open on masto.ai
Glen Turner

@gavinisdie @bjn @cstross @Longspeak @JeremyGraeme NATO requires all members to agree. So NATO will be siderailled into a standards-setting organisation and a EU+ will become the main force for security in Europe.

It's bad for the US because the US's ongoing national security will then depend on the actions of a European-only group. The US would have to ask nicely that a EU+ not risk a Russia nuclear exchange with the US, perhaps threatened because EU+ forces are approaching Moscow. Whereas in NATO the US can insist.

@gavinisdie @bjn @cstross @Longspeak @JeremyGraeme NATO requires all members to agree. So NATO will be siderailled into a standards-setting organisation and a EU+ will become the main force for security in Europe.

It's bad for the US because the US's ongoing national security will then depend on the actions of a European-only group. The US would have to ask nicely that a EU+ not risk a Russia nuclear exchange with the US, perhaps threatened because EU+ forces are approaching Moscow. Whereas in NATO...

4 November at 0:18 | Open on aus.social
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Em :anarchistflagblack:

@bjn @cstross @Longspeak @JeremyGraeme the NATO still has Mexico and Canada tbh...

4 November at 8:04 | Open on lsbt.me
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