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Sean O 🎃✂️

@cstross I think it’s abysmally clear that the racists had to wait until ever WW2 veteran had died before they got any traction. Can you imagine Bob Dole, Daniel Inoue, Bush Sr, or even Ronald Reagan putting up with anybody spouting the current Trump xenophobia? I cannot

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Xironimous Wu

@Seanochicago @cstross

They used racist dog whistles and were happy to get racists' votes.

Don't put the WW2 generation on some kind of anti-fascist pedestal.

Scott Bronson

@Seanochicago @cstross George Wallace, Strom Thurmond, all the Dixiecrats, and their follow-on groups sure would. And probably Nixon.

This is not new.

Scott Bronson

@Seanochicago @cstross Maybe what’s new is that these days it appears constrained to a single political party. 60 years ago both parties were going for it.

Alarod

@Seanochicago Again and again, we find that learning is not generational.

Steve Bellovin

@Seanochicago @cstross Many of them are just letting their lust for power overrule their knowledge of history. Mitch McConnell is reported to have thought that Trump would fade away after 2020. Newt Gingrich has a doctorate in European history, concentrating on the Belgian Congo, that paradigm of liberal, benevolent colonialism… Elise Stefanik used to be a moderate conservative. And look at where people like Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley got their Lord degrees. They know better; they just don't care.

Keith Ivey

@Seanochicago @cstross Bob Dole supported Trump in 2016 and 2020, so he was willing to accept a lot of racism and xenophobia.

blackcoat

@Seanochicago @cstross you mean Ronald "I'm laughing at gay cancer" Regan?
Yes. Yes I can.

Joshua A.C. Newman (he/they)

@blackcoat @Seanochicago @cstross
Yeah, this is the thing: it’s easy to turn your back on disgusting Fascists. But the polite ones are the ones who do the most harm.

Eleanor Saitta

@blackcoat
Yeah, fucking this. The people who tolerated Goldwater and Nixon were always going to end up here.
@Seanochicago @cstross

DEDGirl

@Seanochicago @cstross I can assure you Reagan would be fine with the racism & xenophobia. Its the pro russian stuff he’d shut down. The only joy donald gives me is knowing Reagan is spinning in his grave having a putin puppet in the white house.

Jon

@Seanochicago @cstross I can imagine it, easily. Buzz Aldrin is a Trumper. Not quite WW II generation but very close. Because the Muskrat, and rockets. My Dad was a WW II veteran who died in 2012. In his last decade he was consuming straight-up Fox News constantly. And so on.

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