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Falk Appel

@redezem this bullshit has nothing to do to do with the #agile #teamcoaching I do. I don't see any "inspect and adapt" there at all.

Maybe it touches my work a little bit, because sometimes my customers do it like in the previous toot and I help them get away from that totally misunderstood bullshit process they have.

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Stefan Prandl

@FalkAppel I don't doubt that haha. Given the response to the meme, I think a lot of people are stuck in *really terrible* project management that keeps getting slapped with the title "Agile”.

There are a loooot of managers out there that think Agile is an excuse for just not doing the work. Probably means there's a lot of demand for your coaching to be honest!

Falk Appel

@redezem well there should be a lot of demand. Sadly a lot off people did the stuff from the meme and now #agile is bad and anyways we need less developers because AI is doing that job.

The question is when they figure it out that that need good project and development people and some coaches to fix the broken system where those are put in.

Bruno Nicoletti

@FalkAppel @redezem “Agile” should just be dropped as a term, it’s slippery because many radically different ways of working have adopted the name, while generally it refers to Scrum. This allows religious wars over the meaning of agile and who is sticking to the true way. Whenever anyone says that word to me, I immediately turn off. Stop saying agile and describe how you actually work.

Falk Appel

@bjn @redezem agree. Theres a big conflict where people hate corporate so called "agile" and on the other hand no naming is left wich wouldn't be adopted by the people that destroyed the word "agile" if it works out to be seen on the project/job market.

And sure I use this as little as possible on my project acquisition.

Paul

@FalkAppel @redezem You're not wrong, but you might as well argue that true communism has never been tried when so many of us are working in the agile equivalent of Stalin's USSR.

The presence of the word "scrum" on there is a dead giveaway about the kind of "agile" it's talking about: endless "ceremonies" pointlessly taking up time, more planning than doing, and more managers than implementers.

Paul

@FalkAppel @redezem I've worked in genuinely agile projects back before the management consultancy blob consumed it, and it was very different, but I don't see much of that around these days.

Falk Appel

@threedaymonk @redezem so the agile stuff was really tried and I was there.

I worked multiple in really #agile teams in the past and it was awesome. One was selfmanaged in a way that we even did the hiring when we needed new colleagues. (Boss was only asked to support with the paperwork) In another we "hacked" the surrounding bigger project by "We deliver you don't need to understand how" approach. Very different in each team, but always great.

jneen collective

@threedaymonk @FalkAppel @redezem

it's one of those things, ime if a company wants to do taylorism they're gonna do taylorism and dress it up as whatever is trendy. doesn't make it not taylorism just because they call it "agile"

Mike Taylor 🦕

@threedaymonk @FalkAppel @redezem The communism is dead on target.

It's instructive, when mired an an Agile Scrum Retrospective Standup, to reflect on the actual original Agile Manifesto, which is the EXACT OPPOSITE of all that stuff.
agilemanifesto.org/

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