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Today is the 50th anniversary of women gaining the right to have mortgages, business loans and credit cards in their own names.

I am 47 years old. My mom did not have access to her own credit card without her husband or father's approval. People like to think that this stuff happened in the ancient past. It didn't. People you know were directly affected by anti-women systemic oppression.

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Paul_IPv6

@Lana

i'm just old enough to remember why songs like "mother's little helper" were written.

it was easier to drug yourself into oblivion than get financially independant and able to leave an abusive relationship.

this isn't ancient history at all.

TheJen - Jen Wojcik

@Lana I'm 52. I remember the men in my family throwing fits about this. I thought they were stupid when I was 2, and that opinion never changed.

Pippa :deadinside:

@TheJen @Lana what were their reasons for being angry about it? was it along the lines of “if they get rights they won’t need us any more” or something?

🍥SarahBurnout🍥

@pippa

that was it. another reason was "women are unable to manage their own affairs", etc. there was also a lot of "women are not mentally or emotionally mature" as well.

@TheJen @Lana

CharJTF :a11y: (she/her)

@Lana I'm 68. This, along with so many other rights, were mine from the time I graduated high school.

Thank you for reminding everyone.

66gardeners

@CharJTF @Lana
Same. In Maryland, they changed the drinking age for beer/wine to 18. What a time to be alive! They changed it back a few years later.

Human after all

@Lana my mother was banned from working because she had a child and she had to go to the church to apologise for having a child. This was Ireland in the 1970s

SteveBologna

@Lana When I was a mere sprat of a lad, being raised in a very liberal and politically active family, I remember my mom blowing a gasket in 1965 because the Ford dealer wouldn’t sell her a car FOR CASH because she couldn’t legally register it. It was to be a surprise gift for my father. We weren’t rich but my mom worked two years OT and scrimped every nickel to get that car. We did get it and man that was a cool car!

Beachbum

@Lana The first car I purchased was through Marine Bank in Erie, Pennsylvania and they required me to have a male cosigner. At the time I wasn’t aware that I had no rights until that happened. #VOTE Freedoms are at stake. Not just women’s, he’ll take freedoms from men too. Read #project2025 it’s no joke.

Joe

@Lana My first girlfriend and I went into Bamberger's (now Macy's) and got our first credit card. She to celebrate not needing her dad to cosign for her. Me, being 18 and of legal age. She was older than I was and it was a big deal. (edit, oops, 18 not 19)

Joe

@Lana BTW, I didn't necessarily want a credit card, but she *really* wanted to go to get hers. I also got my Sears charge around the same time. That one is now my oldest credit line.

Fritz Adalis

@Lana @catsalad
They may have changed the law 50 years ago, but that didn't stop banks from allowing, hypothetically, my dad to walk into a bank in 2005 or so and take out a loan for $5000 against my mother's credit without her knowledge.

(In the hypothetical end the bank had to eat the loan when my dad filed bankruptcy, at least.)

Anna

@Lana if you’re Swiss, the women around you in their middle seventies and older reached voting age without having the vote.

Women’s rights are not givens.

Sindarina, Edge Case Detective

@Lana @venite Friday is the 40th anniversary of the law that grants women the right to an abortion, here in the Netherlands.

So much is very recent.

Rolf Blijleven

@Lana I'm 61. My mom and all of my aunts, by law, had to quit their jobs when they married.

One of my aunts worked for an automobile importer, early '50s. He hated to see her go, she was really good at her job.

JoyceHumphreys

@Lana I worry that young women today do not know this and are unaware of how fragile women’s rights are.

Mason Loring Bliss
@Lana That is pretty crazy. That's within my lifetime. I had no idea that particular backwardness was so recent.
Bruce Toews

@luv4music1231 What's wild is that, at the turn of the last century, there were whole groups of women out there fighting against women gaining the right to vote. These were inteligent, well-spoken women who, for reasons unknown to me, felt very passionate about this.

Charles ☭ H

@Bruce_Toews @luv4music1231

My mother fought against the Equal Rights Amendment. She didn't like feminists and thought "the wrong court" might end toilet segregation.

Su-Shee

@Lana let's not forget that our mothers finally were allowed to sign their work contract themselves and it didn't need the signature of the hushand anymore!1!

Katzedecimal

@Lana
When I was 13 in the 1980s, I remember watching my mother fight with a major furniture chain store who insisted they needed her husband's permission before she could buy a new couch. We walked out, couchless.

Jens Elbæk

@Lana Sorry to bother yoy, but what country was that?

Maxwell Spangler

@jenselbaek United States, I believe. I’ve heard stories like this but they felt like long ago. I’m happy to see people reminding us that rights are not to be taken for granted.

Darren McDonald

@Lana My mother was a teacher in the 60s. As soon as you got married you were put on the temporary/substitute staff. It was assumed (expected?) that you would soon leave to have babies.

Mags at Large

@Lana Yep. That's the truth. I was one of the women who gained the right o establish credit on my own. Unbelievable that any woman would want to go back to that kind of second-class citizenship.

Charles ☭ H

@Lana hello, this is an important post and I am wondering what country or state or other that you are posting about?

JamesK

@Lana I was sitting in my local a few weeks ago drunkenly engaging a drive-by trumper, and he mentioned how much things had changed for the worse here. Me: yeah, it used to be much better here; when we moved here my mom couldn’t have a credit card. Him: uuuhhh?

Ben Munson

@Lana my mother in law still won’t rent with Hertz because they wouldn’t give her a car without her husband there. She holds grudges.

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@archaica when I was in my mid twenties, I tried to rent from Hertz, and they refused. They haven't changed much.

Cy
How I've heard it said is that women might not have been able to get a credit card without male approval. You can still drive home how recently the USA was a tyrannical patriarchy, without giving jerks a way to undermine you saying, "Nuh uh! Look at this lady with a credit card in 1492, checkmate atheists!" There were exceptions before 1974, but the Equal Credit Opportunity Act and the Fair Housing Act made it illegal to require male approval for a woman's loan. And it's astonishing that was only 50 years go.
How I've heard it said is that women might not have been able to get a credit card without male approval. You can still drive home how recently the USA was a tyrannical patriarchy, without giving jerks a way to undermine you saying, "Nuh uh! Look at this lady with a credit card in 1492, checkmate atheists!" There were exceptions before 1974, but the Equal Credit Opportunity Act and the Fair Housing Act made it
Elizabeth Winter

@Lana Back in the late 70s, I was working at USPS, where there was a no-layoff clause in the employment contract. I purchased a house and a car, with good payment record, good credit score. But as a single female, I was denied credit card applications - again and again. This being AFTER the law you reference from 50 years ago.

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@EWinterNM same. I have perfect credit, own my own business, have 20,000 down payment but nobody will write a home loan for me. I've been denied so many times I've just given up.

Rochelle

@Lana I’m 49. I remember when it happened to my mother. She went to open a bank account with the bank she & my father already used. They turned her away bc they wouldn’t set it up without her husband being there.

PNW Deb

@Lana I remember those days. I worked with 2 ladies who were probably 60 in 1979. They worked full time at Boeing, but the money all went in one account and the husband wrote the checks and paid the bills. They had no idea about finances at all.

Rob van Kan

@Lana In a well known Spanish fiction, Velvet, which played in the 50s (therefore, in Fascist Spain) a woman inherits a department store and runs it, which would have been impossible in that time and place.

Is there a word for the act of cleaning up the nastier bits of history for the sake of creating happy melodramatic fiction stories?

GinkelKarin

@Lana my sister and her (then) fiancee bought a house. She worked at a bank, was the one with the higher income.She couldn't get the mortgage (from her own employer) on her income alone, because it only counted for 5 years "because woman". 1989, Netherlands

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