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Laura Helmuth

Have you encountered the idea that language is necessary for thought? It was pretty widely accepted for decades, but new research shows it's not so. This is a fun story about a new way of thinking about thinking scientificamerican.com/article

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Nazani

@laurahelmuth
I have, & I find it baffling. Clearly, we initiate some pretty complex actions without 'running it through the word processor.' Ask a soldier.

Lauren Weinstein

@laurahelmuth As much as I'm an admirer of much that Bertrand Russell had to say -- especially relating to theology -- I have always been dubious of his claimed language<->thought connection. So this is fine reading. Thanks.

Hiker Geek ๐ŸŒฒ๐Ÿ’ป๐ŸŒฒ

@laurahelmuth

If our current AI models are based on large language models and thought and language are not intimately intertwined then is current AI just talk and no substance?

smxi

@laurahelmuth this isn't news to Kant or Nietzsche but I'm always pleased when modern neuroscience starts figuring out this stuff, or at least tries.

While the research was good to read I found her notion that LLM were a useful model to study language and cognition somewhat puzzling. And her odd reference to Chomsky, who always held grammar has to have an innate base due to how rapidly young flexible brains acquire language?

Analytic philosophy (which is neither) has done immense damage.

webshinra

@laurahelmuth It's strange such an idea persist, as anyone having experienced a temporary aphasia could testify being able to do complexe tasks and make decisions.

(it was a very strange experience, like if everything was blurred)

Chris L

@laurahelmuth I am pretty sure when I am doing math or some software design there is no spoken language just a sort of mashing different mental structures together. In math I find all the different names for things to be a confusing replacement for what they really are.

Martin Seeger

@laurahelmuth The first time I learned that some people donโ€™t have an inner dialogue, I was completely stupefied. I didnโ€™t think that was possible. Live to learn โ€ฆ

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