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Phantasm
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Selbstbestimmungsgesetz
@phnt except Renaults theyre basically German. But Citroen and Peugeot are wonderful little things
19 October at 15:56 | Open on netzsphaere.xyz
Phantasm
@meso They are all almost fully French cars. Only the engine electronics are likely made by Bosch. The only German car manufacturer Stellantis owns (Citroen, Peugeot owner along with many others) is Opel and those also became fully French cars. Only thing Opel makes are _some_ of the engines and slightly redesigned bodies. Almost nothing from the old GM Opel remains.

They all had serious reliability issues in the past and Renault had one until recently with it's TCe engines that exploded after few thousand km.

Almost all of the also look ugly, because they all want to be unique from others and can't manage to actually finish the design into something nice looking.
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@meso They are all almost fully French cars. Only the engine electronics are likely made by Bosch. The only German car manufacturer Stellantis owns (Citroen, Peugeot owner along with many others) is Opel and those also became fully French cars. Only thing Opel makes are _some_ of the engines and slightly redesigned bodies. Almost nothing from the old GM Opel remains.
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19 October at 16:14 | Open on fluffytail.org
Selbstbestimmungsgesetz
@phnt all new cars look ugly. peugeots are on the better side. that newlogo is ugly tho. i mean that renault are spiritually german.they suck
19 October at 16:16 | Open on netzsphaere.xyz
Phantasm
@meso Mazda 3/6 looks nice compared to everything else. The newer design I've seen looks ugly though.

Toyota Camry also looks relatively nice and VW Arteon didn't look that bad with it's futuristic design, although I would never buy a VW.
19 October at 16:25 | Open on fluffytail.org
adachi
@phnt @meso
Too bad Mazda Diesel engines shit the bed
19 October at 16:45 | Open on the.asbestos.cafe
Phantasm
@adachi @meso You aren't supposed to buy the Diesel engines. Japs never really made great diesel engines. You are supposed to buy the gasoline ones that are surprisingly responsive and playful for their size.
19 October at 16:52 | Open on fluffytail.org
Pawlicker
@phnt @meso @adachi >Japs never made great diesel engines
Isuzu exists...also there's a ton of Diesel pajeros out there.
19 October at 16:57 | Open on clubcyberia.co
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