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“It’s the time of Orwell but with corporations." wired.com/story/internet-archi

This is a must-read on the existential battle of @internetarchive

If you wanna take action after, we've got a list of things to do at battleforlibraries.com/
27 September at 17:46 | Open on mastodon.fightforthefuture.org
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MugsysRapSheet 🔩🐑🐘

@fight @internetarchive
One wonders what Ben Franklin... who founded the first Public Library in North America... would have to say about this? 🤔
Save #TheInternetArchive. Save #Libraries.

27 September at 19:27 | Open on mastodon.social
emeritrix

@fight @internetarchive

The page linked for taking action looks like it has not been updated since before June 28--before the filing of the now-lost appeal.

Can you update us on which of those actions will still be useful?

Thanks.

27 September at 19:52 | Open on kolektiva.social
RS, Author, Novelist

@fight @internetarchive

As an author I may be biased. I was not happy when I found the Internet Archive posted a digital version of my book, which never had a digital version to provide me royalties. They scraped somebody's pirate digital copy off a website or unprotected ftp site. I am preparing to publish a modernized edition commercially, which makes it somewhat problematic there was a free version.

Libraries need to buy the books they loan, and this instance proves the Internet Archive didn't do that. They did not have a physical copy of my book. How often does this thing happen? Excuse their oversight by citing budgets if you like, but the default wasn't "don't loan" but let the copyright owner (in this case the poor author) request a takedown. Asking forgiveness instead of permission leaves a bad taste in your mouth when you are the little guy. FYI: Copyrights revert to the author X years after the corporation the licensed it.

By definition, the Internet Archive scrapes freely available (unguarded) copies of everything. It's what they do. Regular libraries do not do this.

I suspect the truth lies between great idea and careless execution. I admit they quickly removed access to the book, and I gave them credit when I reported this on Mastodon.

I acknowledge that the Internet Archive is an important service. I don't want to see it gone. But to the extent the solution comes out of the hide of authors, almost all of whom are struggling authors, leaves me ambivalent and discontent.

#internetarchive #writingCommunity #writersOfMastodon

@fight @internetarchive

As an author I may be biased. I was not happy when I found the Internet Archive posted a digital version of my book, which never had a digital version to provide me royalties. They scraped somebody's pirate digital copy off a website or unprotected ftp site. I am preparing to publish a modernized edition commercially, which makes it somewhat problematic there was a free version.

27 September at 19:52 | Open on eldritch.cafe
BoterBug

@sfwrtr @fight @internetarchive This is the nuance everyone forgets. Internet Archive was within an established legal area until they scraped a ton of books for anyone to access.

27 September at 22:00 | Open on zirk.us
RS, Author, Novelist

@boterbug @fight @internetarchive @Robo

[the] Internet Archive was within an established legal area until they scraped a ton of books...

As I suspected. I hope they can backpedal. I'd sell access to them as a library. I suspect many authors might grant license. Get donations to buy legit copies. It's a difficult morass, more so for high cost low sales high price things like textbooks, that if made free to access make it impossible for authors to write textbooks, and suddenly the industry tanks. Authors like to make a living, too. I doubt level heads will prevail. Big money, not just pissed authors are involved battling people who want everything for free (and yes, I know there are people who can't afford to pay, legitimately maybe through discrimination etc, which is why there are proper libraries as well as pirates).

@boterbug @fight @internetarchive @Robo

[the] Internet Archive was within an established legal area until they scraped a ton of books...

As I suspected. I hope they can backpedal. I'd sell access to them as a library. I suspect many authors might grant license. Get donations to buy legit copies. It's a difficult morass, more so for high cost low sales high price things like textbooks, that if made free to access make it impossible for authors to write textbooks, and suddenly the industry tanks. Authors...

27 September at 22:15 | Open on eldritch.cafe
RoBo

@sfwrtr @fight @internetarchive agreed. Need to treat all the members of the ecosystem fairly.

27 September at 22:01 | Open on mastodon.ie
Nicole Parsons

@fight @internetarchive

If people want a future where they can read what they want, when they want...vote to support Democrats for the Senate.

Republicans want to burn books...
vanityfair.com/news/2022/05/st

nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elec

theguardian.com/us-news/2023/m

cbsnews.com/news/ohio-gop-sena

msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/

theatlantic.com/newsletters/ar

vanityfair.com/news/2022/03/ri

theatlantic.com/magazine/archi

axios.com/2024/09/24/senate-re
theatlantic.com/magazine/archi
vice.com/en/article/this-senat
vanityfair.com/news/2022/05/jd
vanityfair.com/news/2022/02/pe

@fight @internetarchive

If people want a future where they can read what they want, when they want...vote to support Democrats for the Senate.

Republicans want to burn books...
vanityfair.com/news/2022/05/st

nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elec

27 September at 20:46 | Open on mstdn.social
Moto :rainbowinfinity:

@Npars01 @fight @internetarchive Republicans are worse, by far, but I will never forgive Bill Clinton. #DMCA

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_

(Still voting for Kamala, obviously, but criminy, do I hate this one-party bullshit)

27 September at 20:56 | Open on hachyderm.io
JustRosy

@fight @internetarchive If people haven't downloaded the Adobe CS2 files they paid over $1K for the discs for nearly 20 years ago, by now, I kinda feel like that's on them. At the same time, I do think an official Internet Archive is a necessary thing and should be Internationally legally protected and curated.

28 September at 4:30 | Open on universeodon.com
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