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Derek Powazek ๐Ÿ

When someone says that they just can't quit Twitter, what I hear is, "I am comfortable in a room full of nazis," and I will remember that about them.

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wendy boucek for Kamala

@fraying Absolutely yes, but itโ€™s possible some existing subgroups are still holding it together there. I donโ€™t support anything on or about xitter, but a thin structure of known contacts can be a kind of safe haven, even in a war zone. Or is my reply bullshit?

Dave Rahardja (he/him)

@wendinoakland @fraying When a support group that meets in a bar realizes that the bar has turned into a Nazi bar, should they stay or go?

The Nazis donโ€™t bother them much. But itโ€™s a Nazi bar. Should they try to meet somewhere else or no?

Patrick

@drahardja @wendinoakland @fraying I believe the only sensible thing for that support group to do is lock the doors from the outside and burn it down.

Death to all Nazis.

Cy
Try to leave, yes. Succeed in leaving... good luck.
Derek Powazek ๐Ÿ

@wendinoakland I think that was a reasonable approach a year ago. Now? Way past time to find a new bar.

wendy boucek for Kamala

@fraying I wish we had better on-ramping here on the #fedi and could eliminate the targeted, othering harassment problems. This place is pretty comfortable, just a little rocky for too many.

Derek Powazek ๐Ÿ

@wendinoakland Yeah. It's a problem anywhere that's not consciously created to combat that tendency. I saw it happen on Bluesky, too.

In truth, the era of "the one site with everyone in it" is over. We will create separate spaces online with some overlap, and that's okay. That's how humans have always done community.

Emma Cox

@wendinoakland @fraying I heard someone say Xitter is like Paris under Nazi occupation. I think some original small groups hold out in hope theyโ€™ll eventually piss off and things will go back as they are.

wendy boucek for Kamala

@Emmacox @fraying Interesting, probably a really apt analogy. Youโ€™re stuck in absolute hell, with nazis, but itโ€™s still Paris, your homeโ€ฆ

Derek Powazek ๐Ÿ

@Emmacox @wendinoakland Really bad analogy! Parisians couldnโ€™t just leave with a click of a button.

Websites are not countries.

Dave Rahardja (he/him)

@fraying โ€œBut the Nazi bar has the best pork chopsโ€

Jank Hambrams

@fraying And not even just being *comfortable* in the room with nazis, but comfortable with them having access to every fucking post and interaction they have on the platform.

Derek Powazek ๐Ÿ

@jankhambrams Oh yeah, I should have said, "a room full of nazis, owned by a nazi, currently working to elect a nazi."

Jank Hambrams

@fraying It's just so much fucking worse than it appears on the surface. And the folks I know who haven't left, I'm very disappointed in.

Losing touch with people sucks to do. Feeding a platform run by a guy who wants to destroy the very communities they don't want to leave sucks even more.

Derek Powazek ๐Ÿ

Actually, Twitter isn't just a room full of nazis. It's a room full of nazis in a building owned by a nazi who is currently working to get a nazi dictator elected, where your participation helps the nazi cause.

So, yeah. Gonna remember that.

Jan Lehnardt :couchdb:

@fraying itโ€™s โ€œthisโ€ close to a nazi rally. Thereโ€™s no excuse left.

Paul McO'Smith III

@fraying so, you're tarring whom with a generic nazi brush? everyone on twitter? really. me?

read your post again, and then delete it.

Whom It May Concern :pb:

@pavsmith @fraying
If youโ€™re cool hanging out in an explicitly Nazi space, then the brush isnโ€™t very generic or broad. Get over yourself, bruv, and delete your twitter.

Derek Powazek ๐Ÿ

@pavsmith read my post again and think about why youโ€™re comfortable in a room full of nazis

esa

@fraying
Yeah, I'm kind of wondering if I should just start calling it 4chan or Xchan or something.

รngela Stella Matutina

@fraying

Fun fact, people who don't understand English see about as many nazis on Twitter as anywhere else, i.e., small groups which are easily blocked.

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