Gregory's Server@drdirtbag @cstross @Duncan Absurdity is a strong word. While the death toll was painful and the aftermath costly, 🇺🇸 did manage to crush Al Qaeda. It's somewhat similar for 🇮🇱. They did manage to militarily defeat Hamas for now, take out Nasrallah (who ruled for decades) and at least severely cripple Hisbollah. So far they do lack a plan for what comes after (again because Bibi can't form one for political reasons). But it's not like they did not achieve some of their goals.
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@AndiPopp Fair enough. Al Quaeda never had a chance of "destroying America" or whatever, but they sure managed to (cause us to) seriously damage our international reputation and domestic politics. The parallels continue. @drdirtbag True, that was a result for the US and probably is a result for Israel. I can't argue with that. Yet I still fail to see how Al Qaeda/Iran benefit from that. None of these answers really deal with the question I of relevance. In fact they are just getting further into the weeds of armchair political science. I can just imagine some bully kicking the shit out of a kid on the playground and everyone here sitting around discussing the bully's troubled childhood, violent computer games, lead exposure and aggression... We were talking about how Netanyahu is on a rampage to stay in power. That feels like the only salient point here. |
@drdirtbag @Duncan I would even go as far as to say the absurdity lies with 🇮🇷 and it's proxies. While 🇮🇱 has somewhat achievable goals (wether we agree with them or not), I can't see any for their opponents. They can't actually think they can wipe 🇮🇱 of the map. So what do they want to achieve?
I think they dug themselves into a hole because of the overkill they achieved, like @cstross described. And now they can't find a way out.