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Andy Hort
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Tony Hoyle

@Devonkiwi @janrosenow Not much commercial solar in the UK, due to the lack of sun. Wind is far more viable.. we have lots of that.

Home solar shows as reduced demand, not generation.

1 October at 9:37 | Open on toot.hoyle.me.uk
drukac

@tony @Devonkiwi @janrosenow
It was about 5% last year, which is big enough to make it into a chart. The reason it is not here is because solar PV connects via embedded generation, i.e. downstream from National Grid’s point of view.
Click on this site’s annual tab to find the 5%.
grid.iamkate.com/

This alternative dashboard explains how it uses several data sources to put the full picture together. It’s on the second header down the page:
energydashboard.co.uk/data

@tony @Devonkiwi @janrosenow
It was about 5% last year, which is big enough to make it into a chart. The reason it is not here is because solar PV connects via embedded generation, i.e. downstream from National Grid’s point of view.
Click on this site’s annual tab to find the 5%.
grid.iamkate.com/

1 October at 10:25 | Open on historians.social
Ed Davies

@Devonkiwi @The_Sun

I'm guessing a bit but I imagine it's because most solar is “embedded”, that is connected to the local distribution network rather than the grid, and not metered in real time so not directly visible to the grid operators other than as a reduction in demand. That's not just domestic solar but also commercial solar field-scale farms.

AIUI, even some relatively large wind [¹] is like that, too. E.g., I think the Burn O'Whilk farm near me (9 x 2.5 MW turbines) is not, in the strict sense, grid connected.

Therefore, the actual percentage of renewables will be a bit higher than shown here.

@janrosenow

[¹] compared to domestic-scale turbines people have in their gardens and farmers have in their fields.

@Devonkiwi @The_Sun

I'm guessing a bit but I imagine it's because most solar is “embedded”, that is connected to the local distribution network rather than the grid, and not metered in real time so not directly visible to the grid operators other than as a reduction in demand. That's not just domestic solar but also commercial solar field-scale farms.

1 October at 9:45 | Open on functional.cafe
drukac

@edavies @Devonkiwi @The_Sun @janrosenow

This is correct. Scroll down to the “Electricity Generation/Supply” section on this page for that exact explanation:
energydashboard.co.uk/data

You need to extract the data from more than one portal to combine them all. The Energy Dashboard linked above works, but I prefer @kate ’s website:

grid.iamkate.com/

1 October at 10:22 | Open on historians.social
xenogon

@Devonkiwi @janrosenow I'm also wondering why solar is not shown, though it will be v low in this weather.

1 October at 13:17 | Open on sunny.garden
Andy Hort

@xenogon @janrosenow I think my question is pretty well answered in the replies to my toot.
I had panels on my last house (8 facing west and 8 east), and it was only in winter when they really dropped off.

1 October at 15:28 | Open on mastodonapp.uk
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