@zachleat i know, that’s the point. I’m guess you are responding to Ryan’s post?

I don’t think it’s an absurd criticism to think that web components calcified something that most developers did not even want and now a ton of work is being made to add more things, once added are also calcified, to just get them to the point that they meet expectations of what a component even is.

All of these additions nudge web developers towards one direction but it’s not even clear that that direction is where we want to end up and it feels like it’s piling on apis simply to steam roll ahead something that is still not even clear are any better than user land solutions.