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mhoye

This hotel room has a _baffling_ artefact in it embedded in a wall panel.

These are keyboard LEDs embedded in a… wall panel? What _is_ this? What was it?

58 comments
JP

@mhoye [realizes everyone in a room is shouting] wait a minute... capslock is on

JP

@mhoye person asks which direction the ice machine is in, i try to point them down the hall but instead i say "6" because numlock is on in this room

JP

@mhoye unable to turn the page on my book because scroll lock is on in this room
etc, etc

mhoye

Further: there are three (what appears to be) rj45 jacks under the table, one labelled “data port” and two unlabelled. I didn’t bring a network cable but… I’m curious? I could get one?

Maybe there’s a secret Irish internet?

mhoye

Oh my god, these are terminal connections.

In the late eighties, - before the PS/2 port existed because also before the PS/2 existed -- IBM Model M keyboards had metal-shrouded RJ-45 connectors that connected to terminals-as-in-dumb-terminals, like the IBM 3101. For a while you could buy adapters that would let you plug the RJ-45 models into PS/2 connectors, but all that's long gone.

These are 40-year-old keyboard and data ports.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_3101

supersole

@mhoye but why in a room?
This is such a great beginning for a text adventure if you ask me…

mhoye

@supersole Right!? I mean, it's not, but... what if it is?

mhoye

Ok now I definitely need to get a network cable, just to see if something's still living on the far side of these wires.

I mean, there's no chance. None, there is just no way.

But now I have to know.

『-𝚍𝚜𝚛-』

@mhoye

More likely RS232 serial than ethernet.

When I saw the wire hanging down I was thinking about the current loop interface.

mhoye

@dashdsrdash and I didn’t bring a bus pirate with me, like a _chump_ …

mhoye

You have to know that if it’s labelled with these ancient stressed-plastic stickers, this is like seeing a url with a tilde in it. This is where the old magic lives, this is the good shit.

RyeNCode

@mhoye it's got some good retro futurism retcon working for it.
"We had to go old school tech, the high tech stuff was to eat to compromise." - explaining why the tech in the prequel movie was more sophisticated than the original filmed 30y before

Andreas Rosvall

@mhoye I misread it as DATA FORT and for a second imagined some sort of pillow fort but with mainframes.
Now I'm just disappointed. And I want some PDP-11's and blankets to play in!

Michael / Chgowiz 🎲🎲

@mhoye (slowly hides my precious label maker... preciousssss....sssss.... gollum!)

Patrick C Miller :donor:

@mhoye there’s a 4-port hub from 1988 on the other end of that thing.

rk: not a typewriter

@mhoye

“My profile page URL has a ~ in it. Your profile page has an @ in it. We are not the same.”

Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

@rk @mhoye the best stuff was found at URLs like hxxp://faculty.xyz.ac.uk/~flast/cgi-bin/index.cfm

blinken

@gsuberland @rk @mhoye good god, coldfusion. I'm having flashbacks

Chris

@gsuberland @rk @mhoye also running proxies for gaming through it because it was blazing fast compared to the sluggish dorm nat

Simon Zerafa :donor: :verified:

@mhoye

Would be interesting to see what cabling that is and where it might go 🙂🤷‍♂️

hellhound gayming

@mhoye my friend's pubnix still uses the /~user/ url convention :3 (i had to convince them to do it for the Aesthetic, but still)

Vertex X7

@mhoye Maybe a system for in-room computers that was upgraded over the years? Originally built for terminals, the IR receiver was installed for a refresh and then eventually everything was removed?

Is the room particularly premium or high class? Perhaps a business suite?

Riley S. Faelan

@mhoye That's not entirely true. These stickers are Dymo labelmaker output, and while Dymo's big advantage, mechanical simplicity, is not that advantageous these days, Dymo labelmakers are still in fairly common use. I'll need to check it the next time I go out, but I think even the sign next to my doorbell button, only a couple of years old, is a Dymo label.

Riley S. Faelan

@mhoye The right hole on this picture, is it a screwhole with a missing screw or, say, a 3.5mm TRS socket?

ftg

@mhoye
Old school Dymo <3
It just has a very different feel to it.

Vlad L 🇺🇦🦀

@mhoye see everyone is data lake this, iceberg that - but nobody’s selling the comfort of staying in port

Bonkers

@mhoye are you sure you're actually in a hotel?

Chris Siebenmann

@mhoye Someday I will move my techblog to a new host, and when I do I will be very tempted to preserve the '~cks/' bit for various reasons.

Thomas Guyot-Sionnest

@mhoye Looks like that data port has no connector... Is this the /dev/null equivalent of Ethernet?

The Shaking Earth

@mhoye Maybe some long-gone antique system for controlling the telephone or television with a wired remote device?

crab

@mhoye This reminds me of a very curious bank card terminal embedded into a wall I saw in a student cafeteria once.

It turned out to be a terminal to recharge Proton credit, a local and mostly unsuccessful micropayment system from the early 2000s, before bank cards were able to do that effectively (due to I presume limited internet connectivity). It was shut down in 2014 officially but effectively deprecated long before that. So this was a device that had been out of operation for at least a decade, probably longer and I felt like I was the first person in that same time period to pay any attention to it or recognize what it was.

@mhoye This reminds me of a very curious bank card terminal embedded into a wall I saw in a student cafeteria once.

It turned out to be a terminal to recharge Proton credit, a local and mostly unsuccessful micropayment system from the early 2000s, before bank cards were able to do that effectively (due to I presume limited internet connectivity). It was shut down in 2014 officially but effectively deprecated long before that. So this was a device that had been out of operation for at least a decade,...

Riley S. Faelan

@mhoye 'Data port' is probably meant for Ethernet, although it may or may not be connected. Ethernet connectivity used to be quite common in Irish hotels, and has not entirely gone away yet.

But it might also have be meant to connect a modem, in the times of dial-up. Modem connectors tended to use the narrower RJ11 connectors way-back-when, but RJ45 with only the middle positions populated was not unheard of, and IIRC, there was a bit of a push to popularise RJ45 for phone lines in the early noughties.

Andrew Hewus Fresh

@mhoye if we can find a way around the Air Canada strike I have a cable in my bag . . .

Joost van Baal-Ilić

@mhoye if you don't know what it is, it is probably art :)

max_power

@mhoye This is for an Infrared Keyboard/Mouse combo. I had this, never really worked nice.

Dan Riley

@mhoye Based on some image searches and its apparent placement near the floor, the first one is likely a sensor of some sort, maybe an occupancy sensor (google also suggests a blackjack table card reader, but that seems unlikely).

Ben Ramsey

@dan131riley @mhoye They’re both photos of the same thing. If you zoom in, it says “num, caps, scroll, power” in both photos.

Dan Riley

@ramsey @mhoye indeed. That makes it weirder, or is it not as close to the floor as it looks to me?

Artemesia

@mhoye

There's a camera behind the LED panel

Jencen

@mhoye Looks to be an IR reciever for a wireless keyboard-ma-bob

mhoye

@Jencen guaranteed it’s not that. Why put capslock/scroll indicators on that?

Jencen

@mhoye Putting them on that age of keyboard chews through batteries. Have had similar way way back in the past. All the keyboard logic is in reciever. the keyboard then just does matrix conversion stuff and spits it over IR to the base.

mhoye

@Jencen oh,’you might be right, somebody found a picture of it upthread

Micca Feralchain

@mhoye That's an IR receiver for an old wireless keyboard.

Looks like someone decided to put it in the wall.

𝙹𝚘𝚑𝚊𝚗

@Micca @mhoye Indicators on the receiver side - to reduce battery consumption?

mhoye

@johan @Micca Probably to handle all the keyboard signals and state, yeah. The receiver side has USB power, the keyboard side is just a glorified TV remote.

AlisonW ♿🏳️‍🌈

@mhoye
Sure that isn't just a misleading lens for a camera?

tom jennings

@mhoye

Could be a TTD, or other terminal setup for deaf or blind folk.

"Ask at the desk" lol.

Edit: damned spell corrector!!

mhoye

Update: I was wrong; Micca found this, this is a receiver for an IR keyboard? Built into a wall?

mastodon.social/@Micca@charr.e

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