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Luke Kanies

@storyworker @HeavenlyPossum @Daojoan @violetmadder the state, in the current model. Many cities in Europe — with Vienna being the canonical example — own a huge chunk of the rental properties, and it works very well for everyone.

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HeavenlyPossum

@violetmadder @lkanies @Daojoan @storyworker

That’s just trading an individual landlord for a corporate landlord.

Luke Kanies

@HeavenlyPossum @violetmadder @Daojoan @storyworker but at least it’s an answer, and one that does not start with recreating the universe.

Luke Kanies replied to HeavenlyPossum

@HeavenlyPossum @storyworker @Daojoan @violetmadder I’m speaking to the limits of my imagination, not yours.

Luke Kanies replied to HeavenlyPossum

@HeavenlyPossum fwiw I was genuinely not trying to be offensive. I’ve learned a lot from you and others, and in some cases I can use that to imagine how a different world might work. But in many others — like this one — I can’t quite. And I learned long ago not to let a better solution be blocked by the vague possibility of a perfect one.

I assume you have a more complete picture of how things could work. But I’m just having to muddle through, and usually do quite poorly here.

Luke Kanies

@HeavenlyPossum @violetmadder @Daojoan @storyworker I’d love a world where housing existed that did not need to be purchased but also did not need to be rented from… someone.

But I honestly cannot imagine how to create such a world, or how it would work. In the meantime, I can at least imagine there being a lot of public housing, and while that world is still flawed, it’s far less so than the one we live in now

Shannon

@lkanies @HeavenlyPossum @violetmadder @Daojoan @storyworker
I think co-ops are a great stepping stone where one is not required to take on the full responsibility of homeownership but also is not being exploited by others

story worker replied to Shannon

@shamogan @lkanies @HeavenlyPossum @violetmadder @Daojoan That is something I have pondered for my own future, especially in the context of a living/working arrangement. This is something that needs to be happening more, building more, over time.

Shannon replied to story

@storyworker @lkanies @HeavenlyPossum @violetmadder @Daojoan I very much agree. We would need a lot more investment and infrastructure into these types of arrangements if we want to move to a world without landlords

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