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Thomas Coudreau

@sesivany @borisschapira @janrosenow The graph in the initial post is for _electricity_ consumption, the post above considers _energy_ consumption. Are we _substituting_ renewables to fossil or _adding_ new (electric renewable) sources?

Aslak Raanes

@sesivany @borisschapira @janrosenow The goal should not be not reduce the total amount of electrical energy, but replace overall diesel/petrol/gas for transport/heat/industry with something that uses electricity.

Aslak Raanes

@sesivany @borisschapira @janrosenow I would like something like mastodon.energy/@janrosenow/11 where the total amount of energy (in Joule) consumed in Europe is illustrated. Maybe the size of boxes should better illustrate the amount of energy fossil represent.

Jiří Eischmann

@aslakr @borisschapira @janrosenow Even that wouldn't give you full picture. You'd also have to take deindustrialization into account. If someone closes a factory in Europe and moves it to e.g. China, it's a net energy saving for Europe, but nothing positive for the climate in total.

Extinction Studies

@aslakr @sesivany @borisschapira @janrosenow Agreed, but the long term solution to the total situation is to reduce emissions to near zero, which is going to require most industries to reduce their energy and other resource use by at least 50%. Not just replace the energy source.

Aslak Raanes

@aka_quant_noir @sesivany @borisschapira @janrosenow If the industri are going to reduce their energy consumption and emissions, they would need to electrify. To make that possible, there need to be produced a lott more electrical energy.

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