@whitequark @hailey I mean it sucks that when software is already a bunch of "having to take responsibility for things that aren't your fault" and bad distro stuff causes even more of that

but, we find enough bugs doing things like "running upstream's tests" that I don't think in general we're at the point where distros don't need to exist (especially since I'm at the end where we're testing and fixing stuff before it gets into arch or whatever)

to be clear I have no objection to your logic in your case

maybe we'll evolve to a point where distros as an experience are no longer necessary but rather a concept we use to enrich our understanding of what software being broken was like