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 @fifilamoura @kissane In any case, this compelling to purity is something I've both seen and experienced, and have heard others mention. In the spirit of trying to be constructive I'll add that there might be some other mechanisms for why vanguardianism (for lack or better word) so often tends to rise when pushing changes in society. I've heard shouts* "if no one gets upset nothing's going to change" and people don't get upset by vegans who leave the steak on the plate.. 5 comments
Would an example of purity test to be like animal rights activist being barred from taking part "in the scene" for saying that they consider hunted meat to be ethical? Because I've been speaking in this context. This happened to a friend of mine. Edit: After reviewing the conversation: Or being pushed to eat meat because it's "not that bad" and "you don't want to make a scene"? In this case you either fold or make yourself a caricature. I'm not a historian of homosexual rights, and I feel a bit uncomfortable in speaking of these things in detail, but I understand that big part of gay rights was having it been accepted that being gay is normal. And that in turn required mentioning you've being gay even when you could avoid doing so, thus breaking the idea of what's normal. This is what I meant when I said flamboyant. It might have been the wrong word, of which I apologize.  You note that my argument wasn't about gays, but about activism and its costs. Also that I repeatedly apologized of initially speaking of gays for various reasons, NOR did I want to argue about things where your lived experience and my limited book knowledge were from different continents and cultures. I've tried to steer toward the basic hypothesis, but also wanted to create space for comparing our cultural differences as I wanted to hear your thoughts. |
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@iju Yeah but upsetting or shocking people into paying attention has nothing to do with "purity tests". Maybe you're misunderstanding what a purity test is? It's basically being a fundamentalist for whatever ideology it is you've decided is more important than actual people. @kissane