Gregory's ServerMy dudes, Telegram is not an e2e messaging app like Signal or WhatsApp. Telegram is more like Twitter. It is a social media app that is mostly public content that also happens to have DMs, where you can turn on e2e messaging with questionable cryptography that most people never even bother to use.
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@evacide @evacide  @yoguiignacio @evacide only until people don't start to send sensitive data over the media.  @evacide may I suggest #Briar a secure, p2p messenger. Can use internet, local WiFi, direct wifi, even Bluetooth. All data held on local devices, not on servers. @Sine_Nomine @evacide There is another really cool peer-to-peer messenger called Cwtch! It routes all of the traffic through Tor, so it is anonymous as well. https://cwtch.im/download/  @evacide and the company has a track record of not deleting disgusting channels even after people reporting they were publicly spreading offending material. @evacide just wanted to ask, how is it similar to Twitter? since the GUI is directed towards DMs and groups with other people, I didn't know its infrastructure was built like that.   @Goutte it doesn't sound like it's true, do you have a source for that? From a cursory look at https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop/tree/dev/Telegram/ThirdParty, it only seems to have about 20-somethig direct ones, and most of those don't seem to have further dependencies. I "built" (it's NodeJs-based) it myself about a year ago (did not bother checking the current source tree) ; can't blame you for not believing it, I did not either. I had to check with a friend. I do build pretty much everything I use, for kicks but also because I find that's a good metric for the general quality of an open-source project. Please do send me a blip if you find nothing suspicious of the sort, I'm always happy to reevaluate my beliefs. :) You are totally right ! It was Signal Desktop that had that many dependencies ; just checked my local clone. I had been compiling Telegram and Element at around the same time, and got mixed up. Thankfully, you were here. I'll edit my original post, and profusely apologize to the fedi for such a blunder. @evacide and unlike TikTok, api[.]telegram[.]com is one of the most dangerous domains to any organization.  @evacide I wish this was more common knowledge (and Telegram's marketing feels largely to blame)!  I only spent a little time on Telegram, but it basically seemed like Xitter after the last vestige of redeeming content had been burned away.  @evacide Thank you for this. I use it with severel people daily and had no idea! |
@evacide I remember that the encryption was sketchy, but didn't know the rest. This is a helpful explanation.