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@OchmennoPodcast or a masai warrior or a guerrillero from Spain against Napoleon... Because the industrial revolution allowed for relatively fast travel between communities that had never met before and therefore were still very distinct, the possibilities are endless. @jesusmargar And for more inner Party dynamics, the Maori fought against the victorians gentlemans brother, the guerrillero is from a rival village of the pirate ^^ @OchmennoPodcast mmmh, no. If the pirate is French and the Guerrillero Spanish their villages cannot be close although they could have fought each other or their family members if any of the French ones were drafted. @jesusmargar https://www.truthorfiction.com/abraham-lincoln-and-the-samurai-fax-machine/ "The samurai were officially abolished as a caste in Japanese society during the Meiji Restoration in 1867 The first ever fax machine, the “printing telegraph”, was invented in 1843 And Abraham Lincoln was famously assassinated at Ford’s Theater in 1865 Which means There was a 22 year window in which a samurai could have sent a fax to Abraham Lincoln" @fdr I thought the fax was much more modern but obviously my understanding of what a fax is is far more restrictive.   This isn't a million miles away from the plot of the The Baroque Cycle by Neal Stephenson but that series is ~130 years early 😉  @jesusmargar Add that Haitian independence was recognized by France in 1824 (IIRC, after independence declaration in 1804) and occupation of the Spanish part of the Island by Haiti went from 1822 to 1844... And the pirate was probably part of all that in one way or another... You have a great background to put your characters in trouble in the West Indies and US South, with political troubles, slavery/anti-slavery, and maybe a dash of voodoo if you 'd like some supernatural.  @nosaj I now realise Tom Cruise's the last samurai must dab on this film for inspiration (although I haven't seen it).  @jesusmargar How is that possible when the the french privateering ended in 1830 and Meiji restoration started 38 years later in1868? @jantzen @jesusmargar *elderly* French pirate, 40 years out of the game (and probably identifying as something else by that time). Probably the biggest stretch... but hey, the most probably lingua franca among those four is English, and you also have to explain how the samurai got to be conversational in it... @rst @jesusmargar I wasn't thinking straight. Its the persons that need to overlap. Not the periods.  @jesusmargar @cstross That's basically “Skull and Bones: A Pirate's Odyssey” (2011) by Raina Samuel. https://search.worldcat.org/title/727704277?oclcNum=727704277   as far as I know, there were no gunslingers; the whole shootout on main str thing is just a myth but maybe I overstate the case @jesusmargar I had a vaguely similar idea using John Watson (from the Sherlock Holmes stories), an adult Alice Liddle (the IRL inspiration for Alice in Wonderland), John Henry (from American folklore), Joaquin Murrieta (the IRL Mexican inspiration for Zorro), and Sun Wukong (of Chinese legend).  @jesusmargar Also the Frenchman and the gunslinger (who is, incidentally, Mexican) are always fighting with each other @jesusmargar It'd be interesting if the Frenchman in the group was opposed to the occupation :0 @vgarzareyna as a pirate, she should be. That said, I think the dislike is not due to geopolitics alone but due to being exposed to "Frenchness" for the first time. @jesusmargar I juust noticed the French is the pirate, I was thinking of the French was the Victorian man  @jesusmargar Also an interesting illustration of how people have a weirdly insular view of historical "settings", forgetting how, like, cowboys lived in the same world as samurai. @flesh of course, in that century the historical settings went from insular to interconnected. More on this: @jesusmargar I wouldn't say it was quite as binary. Part of my point was that while the world wasn't always interconnected, people almost always were interacting with their neighbours one way or another. @flesh the reason novels become a thing in the 19th century is that easy travel facilitated global understanding and a need to explain it.  @jesusmargar My only issue is that if we're stuck with 1830 at the latest we're just a touch too early to have them sending faxes to eachother. |
@jesusmargar add a Māori warrior to it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Wars