@davew I think I prefer a fact check after the interview...

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@davew I think I prefer a fact check after the interview instead of journalists deciding what is a lie and who may speak.

Like 12 August at 20:47 | Wall-to-wall | Open on social.cologne

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Kipppunkt

@kolya @davew
A fact check is a nice thing. But i think a journalist has to intervene imediately and clearify as good as possible. Else the interviewed person had the possibility to use lies for a bigger picture.

12 August at 21:58 | Open on mastodon.social

kolya

@Kipppunkt @davew
So what. Let them tell their lies, let the journalists do their work by reporting the facts and then let the people decide.

12 August at 22:08 | Open on social.cologne

kolya

@Kipppunkt @davew
...unless you think the people might fall for the lies if they are painted as a bigger picture, because the people are too stupid to see through it and need guidance by cutting off unwelcome interviews.
In which case you're an authoritarian and I don't care about what you think journalists should do.

12 August at 22:17 | Open on social.cologne

kmetz

@kolya @Kipppunkt @davew I think people who believe in certain „big lies“ aren‘t stupid, but tricked and emotionally abused. And I don‘t think such violent behaviour by certain liars can be tolerated, that it goes far beyond being „unwelcome“.

What I‘d like to see is interviewers who just keep persisting on such a lie after first occurence, visibly no longer taking the person serious. Who laughingly and forcefully persist until someone cries, time runs out or the guest just leaves.

13 August at 0:24 | Open on chaos.social

kolya

@kmetz @Kipppunkt @davew
yes, but I'm sure it's never you who gets tricked and abused. it's always others who you fear might get the wrong idea.
what if they think the same about you? what if Trump gets elected and uses those same clever "rules" you guys are making up here to silence your side? this is why journalism needs to act as impartial as possible, because that will help you when shit hits the fan.

13 August at 0:41 | Open on social.cologne

Kipppunkt

@kolya @kmetz @davew
I do not think journalists should yell their truth to the interviewed or journalists should win a discussion. But I wish journalists have background knowledge, mention facts when lies are spoken and ask questions to uncover misleading arguments.
Of course they should be polite.

13 August at 7:37 | Open on mastodon.social

Dave Winer ☕️

@kolya @Kipppunkt

let the liars find another way to misinform the people.

12 August at 22:42 | Open on mastodon.social

kolya

@davew @Kipppunkt
sometimes it feels like I'm in the third wave experiment.

12 August at 23:00 | Open on social.cologne

bamfic

@kolya @Kipppunkt @davew a lie can travel around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes

13 August at 2:53 | Open on autonomous.zone