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aeva

@rygorous @lritter what! is german just a substitution cipher, a few deleted spaces, and substantially less french?!

9 August at 6:54 | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place
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aeva
Leonard Ritter

@aeva @rygorous der mond
die sonne

(very rare in a lang that the sun is feminine)

9 August at 6:56 | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place
Fabian Giesen
aeva

@rygorous @lritter I feel like I probably would have had a better shot at not failing german class if I knew this back in school

9 August at 7:18 | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place
Leonard Ritter

@aeva @rygorous well there's still the grammar which is abysmal. iirc german used to have much simpler grammar until the romans inspired changes in conjugation

9 August at 7:20 | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place
aeva

@lritter @rygorous I always get the feeling that language just gets worse over time, but I can't ever tell if that's actually the case or just the third hand opinions from linguists. like what do they know they weren't there either

9 August at 7:31 | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place
Irenes (many)

@aeva @lritter @rygorous "worse" is... language definitely acquires more interesting wrinkles over time

9 August at 7:37 | Open on adhd.irenes.space
Leonard Ritter

@ireneista @aeva @rygorous just an intuition but i feel there's a push-pull between at least two different factions: the "save energy, move mouth/hands less" faction (you see their handiwork everywhere), and the "we recognize elevated status in society by the use of multisyllabic technical terms under the guise of aiming for enhanced expressive precision" faction.

in addition, language is not only used to foster understanding, it's also used for demarcation. youth slang is mostly this.

9 August at 7:44 | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place
Mrs Beanbag

@aeva @lritter @rygorous Dutch and Norwegian have both been purposefully simplified on government initiative, in the mid 20th century, mostly removing a lot of pointless gender stuff. also as someone who just speedran Duolingo's Danish course it's kinda wild how all the Germanic languages start to just sound like dialects/strong accents once you get used to listening to it.

9 August at 10:40 | Open on ieji.de
Fabian Giesen
Fabian Giesen

@aeva @lritter like the whole chain shift is a fun curiosity when you see it written but considering it's an actual systematic change in pronunciation that happened fairly consistently throughout the first millenium BC, where therefore speakers must have fairly consistently drifted in their phonetics across a fairly large region, is just bizarre to think about

9 August at 7:24 | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place
Leonard Ritter

@rygorous @aeva globally we're also drifting away from "english with an accent" towards various legit alternative vernaculars; various versions of pidgin english, and jamaican as a mature offspring. which has traceable irish roots. :)

9 August at 7:32 | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place
Janne Moren

@aeva @rygorous @lritter
It's really just Swedish but without the beautiful intonation.

9 August at 7:10 | Open on fosstodon.org
James Widman

@aeva @rygorous @lritter see also norwegian for many words that are basically english-with-a-different-accent

9 August at 7:37 | Open on mastodon.social
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