also i cannot get over that a lot of these approaches come from performance reasons
it's like "why are you hydrating the dom through batched async requests to the server side rendering cache" "ah it would be slow otherwise "
"why's it slow" "well, in order to hydrate the dom via async requests we're sending over about 20 megs of compressed javascript"
@tef I still mostly believe that this is the best type of website: http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/
Jokes aside, I hate most javascript web "apps". If I wanted an application, I'd download one. :pepe_g: