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 @baldur At my workplace, the primary function of LLMs is to hang over all of our heads like the sword of Damocles. You don't even have to be in an area that's using it to be demoralized by the constant reminders that management really wants to replace you with a robot slave but just hasn't gotten around to your department yet. 8 comments
@Npars01 @gooba42 @baldur I have to wonder what happens if they actually succeed? It's all very well for the owner of a business if they can lay off 4/5th of their workers, but if everyone else is doing the same, who will buy their products? Currently employment is a foundation of society: If you don't earn your living you have no right to water, food or shelter. We could be looking at the very early days of a crisis that comes to define the next decades, alongside climate change. @Qybat @baldur @Npars01 And they *always* want us to measure IQ by net worth. It's not enough that they're the richest, they also want to be the most revered, most loved, smartest and most honored. They want *all* the money and they want *all* the social capital without having rightfully earned any of it.  @Npars01 @Qybat @gooba42 @baldur They just truly believe the entire world is theirs and we're just in their way.  It's gobsmacking that a hedge fund manager can simply order mass layoffs & wage decreases on a whim. Chris Hohn had a single bad year and that is how his fit of pique was manifested; putting thousands on unemployment in retaliation. @Qybat @Npars01 @gooba42 @baldur then we will invent more jobs... jobs are not a static thing where we will simply run out of them if we pretend for a second that ai based machines are literally doing all our work for us then we will essentially be in paradise, where food and shelter etc all costs nothing and we can spend all day having fun and relaxing just don't expect that to happen any time soon @ikt @Npars01 @gooba42 @baldur We don't have an economic model for paradise. There must be a limit to job creation. It already takes the efforts of the advertising industry to create artificial demands just to keep the current level of employment. We're already deep into the space of busy-work - pointless consumption to fuel pointless production. Whole industries built upon disposable goods and planned obsolescence to the point it's causing environmental damage. Just how far can we push this? |
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@gooba42 @baldur
The recreation of slavery is certainly one goal. The investors in AI products definitely believe in slavery.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/oct/10/amazon-trafficking-links-claims-saudi-arabia-workers-abuses
https://www.statista.com/chart/30666/estimated-number-of-people-in-modern-slavery-per-1000/
https://dawnmena.org/mbs-vision-for-saudi-arabia-relies-on-rampant-abuse-of-foreign-workers-like-my-father/
https://www.axios.com/2023/05/25/modern-slavery-countries-rank-list-forced-labor
How does an employee compete with a computer program that doesn't have a mortgage, kids to feed, or a need to sleep?
This happens whenever wage demands start making the wealthy nervous. They buy a politician to get H1B visas. They announce outsourcing to India.
@gooba42 @baldur
The recreation of slavery is certainly one goal. The investors in AI products definitely believe in slavery.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/oct/10/amazon-trafficking-links-claims-saudi-arabia-workers-abuses
https://www.statista.com/chart/30666/estimated-number-of-people-in-modern-slavery-per-1000/