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@hp Yeah, that's what I'm saying, nobody has done it yet. But that doesn't mean its impossible. Windows is absolutely not the way, but I do believe that a well-documented HTTP-based UI for linux, systemd, and docker, could potentially be a home run.

It would have to include the linux installer too, including managing the installation from a phone, so you don't have to plug a kbd and mouse into the server.

25 July at 1:36 | Wall-to-wall | Open on social.pixie.town
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HP van Braam :verified: replied to Forest

@forestjohnson I'm mostly wondering how to preserve the "useful errors that will tell you what went wrong."

I've never seen that done in anything GUI-like, other than just stuffing a log-file into a textbox. And at that point it'd be better to be able to run grep on it, or find all logs around the same time on the system...

How do you give a novice user information like "This violated an SELinux policy" and let them fix it, without making it easy to accidentally allow an exploit to run.

25 July at 1:40 | Open on mastodon.tmm.cx
Forest replied to HP van Braam :verified:

@hp

> How do you give a novice user information like "This violated an SELinux policy"

1. disable SELinux

2. If you want to enable SELinux, you have to make a GUI for it -- you have to actually go into the SELinux source code and add the parts that will enable actual usability. Not to create a shitty error message like "This violated an SELinux policy", but to create an error message that contains the word "because".

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.. nobody has ever even TRIED to fix it.

Nobody ever tried to fix climate change either... But if we don't fix it, it's all over real quick.

I believe in an interpretation of what we observe about the universe that says that "what we observe is generally what was most likely to happen". aka "many worlds"

In a thousand years, the only likely outcome that anyone will be around to observe, is the outcome where we got thru it...

I took a heroic dose of psychedelics and saw the Golden Path, so I'm trying to walk it. Succeed or fail, don't care, at least I tried and did my best. Sue me.

@hp

> How do you give a novice user information like "This violated an SELinux policy"

1. disable SELinux

2. If you want to enable SELinux, you have to make a GUI for it -- you have to actually go into the SELinux source code and add the parts that will enable actual usability. Not to create a shitty error message like "This violated an SELinux policy", but to create an error message that contains the word "because".

25 July at 1:50 | Open on social.pixie.town
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