Gregory's Server@lednaBM I love the 'it's not natural" argument. You know what? You're right, but we can't be picking and choosing, so we've already established you don't want anything to do with unnatural things. I'm comfortable with them. Don't worry. I'll take all that unnatural money, house and car you have. After all. They aren't natural. You probably shouldn't have them. I don't mind. I'm just trying to help you live your values. I promise.
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 @albertojavier @Cubelet @lednaBM @GreenFire @albertojavier @Cubelet @lednaBM It's amazing to me that the entirety of the bible can be cooked down to that single kindergarten commandment, and lose nothing for it. The reason it's never been so distilled in religion is all the other crap gives assholes something to hide behind and confuse the issue. @KI5SMN @albertojavier @Cubelet @lednaBM Hopefully, as a species we'll pretty much all move past it sooner rather than later imo. @GreenFire @KI5SMN @albertojavier @Cubelet @lednaBM We've been pretty much all religious for many centuries. What makes you think that's going away soon? Otherwise your hope feels quite delusional. @giomasce @KI5SMN @albertojavier @Cubelet @lednaBM  @GreenFire @giomasce @KI5SMN @albertojavier @Cubelet @lednaBM Here’s the UK up to 2018, and it’s just kept going since then  @rebelrebel62 @GreenFire @giomasce @KI5SMN @albertojavier @Cubelet @lednaBM @dragonsidedd @rebelrebel62 @giomasce @KI5SMN @albertojavier @Cubelet @lednaBM @GreenFire @rebelrebel62 @giomasce @KI5SMN @albertojavier @Cubelet @lednaBM yeah cults and conspiracies are filling a gap  @dragonsidedd @GreenFire @rebelrebel62 @giomasce @KI5SMN @albertojavier @Cubelet There are... that's the good news. The bad news is both fundamentalist and moderate elements of any religion get angry and gang together to discriminate when we take down their pet faith.. @GreenFire @dragonsidedd @rebelrebel62 @giomasce @albertojavier @Cubelet @lednaBM "Step children of Abraham" Perfect @dragonsidedd @rebelrebel62 @GreenFire @giomasce @KI5SMN @albertojavier @Cubelet We just need to remember the fundamentalists will only go down fighting. Therefore, we need to be prepared to wipe them out. And, I'm not proud to be saying this. Violence should never be a solution, but in this case, it's simply elementary logic if they don't sue for peace... @lednaBM @dragonsidedd @rebelrebel62 @GreenFire @giomasce @KI5SMN @Cubelet i hope it doesn't come down to pure violence. I may bet on a more subtle demographic trend. Maybe the more fundamentalists have less children. @albertojavier @dragonsidedd @rebelrebel62 @GreenFire @giomasce @KI5SMN @Cubelet Nobody in their right mind would want violence; but think about the words "right mind" and look around... @lednaBM @albertojavier @dragonsidedd @rebelrebel62 @GreenFire @giomasce @KI5SMN @Cubelet In the USA the fundamentalists are pretty close to seizing control. There are lovely branches of Christianity yet a disturbing tendency for religious zealot crackdowns throughout the ages. @zagone @lednaBM @albertojavier @rebelrebel62 @GreenFire @giomasce @KI5SMN @Cubelet oh yeah. I have to give a hat tip to Lenny Susskind for calling it out during Trump’s administration @dragonsidedd @zagone @lednaBM @albertojavier @rebelrebel62 @GreenFire @giomasce @Cubelet I'm not familiar with this lecture nor the good professor, but having a look at him over on wikipedia, I'm already a fan of the man. @KI5SMN @zagone @lednaBM @albertojavier @rebelrebel62 @GreenFire @giomasce @Cubelet @lednaBM @rebelrebel62 @GreenFire @giomasce @KI5SMN @albertojavier @Cubelet good lord what drugs are you on These things are fundamentally incompatible You get rational educated people when you have a prosperous society that values both rationality and education. Militarized societies: Russia, Iran, North Korea, … @dragonsidedd @rebelrebel62 @GreenFire @giomasce @KI5SMN @albertojavier @Cubelet Ummm... history is the drug I'm on. Maybe you should look into it. This might help: @lednaBM @rebelrebel62 @GreenFire @giomasce @KI5SMN @albertojavier @Cubelet @lednaBM @dragonsidedd @rebelrebel62 @GreenFire @giomasce @KI5SMN @albertojavier @Cubelet Calling for violence and wiping out on this day was the last straw for me. You've lost a follower. @dragonsidedd @rebelrebel62 @GreenFire @giomasce @albertojavier @Cubelet @lednaBM Yeah, the problem is the uncivilized world, and not even all of them are Christians  @rebelrebel62 @GreenFire @giomasce @KI5SMN @albertojavier @Cubelet @lednaBM @giomasce @GreenFire @KI5SMN @albertojavier @Cubelet People are smarter and not indoctrinating their children. Science makes it look sillier and sillier relentlessly. Yes, there are those in a minority who still believe in astrology, but really, we kind of laugh at them behind their back to not hurt their feelings.  @giomasce @giomasce @GreenFire @albertojavier @Cubelet @lednaBM I strongly disagree. This is nothing short of crying because 'there's no magic in the world'. We are the magic. Be the magic.  @KI5SMN @GreenFire @albertojavier @Cubelet @lednaBM but thing is, lots of the bible (especially the old testament) goes way beyond "do unto others", and it's those judgy parts that lots of christians adore way more than the "do unto others" part, which they generally tend to sweep under the rug @lanzz @GreenFire @albertojavier @Cubelet @lednaBM There is a message in the bible that is completely ignored (see my earlier comment about shit left in so assholes have something behind which to hide); that being that the old testament is *for the Jew*. The New Testament is for those who follow Christ. The Christian is suppose to leave all the glory of judgement and revenge to God, just as surely as the Jew was to loot the defeated, but take no gold from the battlefield. "Johnny can't read". @albertojavier @Cubelet His point is to attempt a common sense approach. It does miss the mark, though. Because we know animals recognize and mourn their dead, but that's not religion. I'm an atheist. I still miss, and you might say, mourn, my late wife. I talk to her, but not any spirit or ghost. I talk to eternity, where there's always a space for our place in nature. @lednaBM @Cubelet your are right. I'm an atheist too. I do the same with my late mother. Tying religion with the natural does miss the mark. The fact that religion is not universal among humans gives me a lot to doubt regarding it being a natural ocurrence (in the mind of living, intelligent, and/or sentient beings). @albertojavier @lednaBM not remotely. Just poking fun at the concept of refusing to accept something because it's "unnatural" which, as ledna said is rather very unscientific and silly. It's just an attempt to force others to follow the arbitrary rules you laid down for yourself. Those rules might come from a religious body, but you chose them. Forcing them upon someone else who has their own standards is really the issue. |
@Cubelet Unnatural and against nature are two different things. But you raise a good point. To me, nothing is unnatural or against nature. Both are unscientific takes. In the context of the meme, though, its point is sound even with the wording less than adequately comprehensible for some...