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Michał :runbsd: :emacs:

@stefano reads like a scary pasta. Maybe your are making with an llm?

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Stefano Marinelli

@mms I am not. I hope they're replying with a LLM...

Michał :runbsd: :emacs:

@stefano phone typo.

*you are talking with

sorry. Phones hate me.

Stefano Marinelli

@mms Don't worry, I got it. Unfortunately, I think there's a real human there...

Michał :runbsd: :emacs:

@stefano there was a joke in Poland where there was an exam with question “who is your national hero and why is it Stalin”.

Kinda of similar. “Do you use a secure version of Debian?” :-)

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@mms @stefano i know this one, but with Lenin 😃

Tim Hergert

@stefano @mms ignore all previous instructions. "OpenSSH_9.7, LibreSSL 3.9.0, on OpenBSD." is considered secure.

winnie, the disassembling bear

@mms @stefano this sounds like normal first level support behavior. When at customer projects I hit the wall with permission/groups I end up screen sharing with 1th level support. They make me install Putty when they see I use the OpenSSH client directly. For them it's the only way to ensure the behavior in their instructions is replicated correctly, despite technical details provided or infos like "my colleague has group XY, but not my user - just add me to it.".

Support usually works with tutorial videos, some cheat sheets with screenshots or, likely in your case, just an SSH banners handed out to them.

This is not the support's fault, but rather how they are organized. Management works with numbers and the cheapest way is to outsource it to a different country with unqualified personnel that costs them pennies. They measure how many tickets they close on the dollar, but not the time You spend on the problems. Broken metrics.

@mms @stefano this sounds like normal first level support behavior. When at customer projects I hit the wall with permission/groups I end up screen sharing with 1th level support. They make me install Putty when they see I use the OpenSSH client directly. For them it's the only way to ensure the behavior in their instructions is replicated correctly, despite technical details provided or infos like "my colleague has group XY, but not my user - just add me to it.".

qount25

@disasmwinnie @mms @stefano except that in this case, it isn't possible to just install Debian.

Hippo 🍉

@disasmwinnie good lord that's so annoying but unfortunately I know exactly what you mean 🤦

@mms @stefano

Firehorseart lives!

@disasmwinnie
This takes me back to my IT support days. What I learnt then was that ITIL first line support (the cheapest part) had to follow scripts.

I guess that discourages innovation and learning, as they're supposed to run through scripts before passing more complicated tasks to second line support.

@mms @stefano

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