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Scott Williams 🐧

In some ways, #Firefox deserves credit for at least making the setting visible in the main settings. There are plenty of examples of other browsers burying far more nefarious things. That said, it's a hard thing to reel back in now. The bigger story here is yet another prominent #opensource tech company fumbled communications about a change that users cared about more than the company expected.

Let this be a lesson about the value of investing in #community facing people to drive decisions.

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nxadm

@vwbusguy

Privacy trumps ads. Every single day. Mozilla fucked up. It was their wrong priorities, not their communication. In fact, the explanation made it worse (testing for Meta, wtf).

If the execs don't get it, Firefox has no future. People that care about that stuff are the ones that install Firefox. Other people just use whatever is installed on their system.

Scott Williams 🐧

@nxadm But PPA is fundamentally about privacy. Having the adtech companies only get impression and click metrics without identifying users, behavior, tracking, etc is absolutely a better privacy situation than the current status quo.

nxadm

@vwbusguy

I don't want them getting impressions. I don't want a 3rd party anonimizing stuff . That's privacy.

Scott Williams 🐧

@nxadm It's not 3rd party anonomizing. It's literally just a counter delivered to them by an aggregator run by Mozilla and ISRG on pages that were specifically requested. That's way better than anonomizers that haven't always been so anonymous. This is an alternative to anonomizers (or worse) that are commonly used now.

nxadm

@vwbusguy

I get that. I don't want to give advertisers anything. I want them to disappear. They almost destroyed the web.

Scott Williams 🐧

@nxadm I completely feel you on that. Luckily, this doesn't impact ad blockers.

nxadm

@vwbusguy

We know Chrome is working on that direction. I don't want to see Firefox go on that road, but "a little less badly".

Scott Williams 🐧

@nxadm Sure - I just don't think *this* is the slippery slope. This was done in the open, is a w3c draft thing, is incrementally in the right direction. That said, it definitely could have been communicated better. Mozilla desperately needs better community engagement.

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