Gregory's Server@Schouten_B @prettyhuman @cuchaz I am neither educated nor wealthy, and yet here I am. I'm sorry, but the narrative that this is a move for disadvantaged people feels disingenuous. I know Firefox has been struggling and tough choices need to be made, but I also believe that those who use Firefox do so because it is seen as the less evil alternative to Chrome/Chromium. Choices like this give the impression that this is changing.
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 @disky00 @prettyhuman @cuchaz If you think this is changing. Or that we are somehow beholden to Google. I can simply tell you, factually, that you're wrong 🙂. We may disagree on how to proceed with a web that is open and accessible to all, and that disagreement is okay! And I will assume you are in good faith, if you will accept that I am 🙂. This is -genuinely- the only route I see for helping protect the privacy of the most vulnerable people. Even if you disagree.  @Schouten_B @prettyhuman @cuchaz I don't expect to change your mind, and the decisions you make are hopefully the best they can be for everyone involved. However, I do expect the choices made to bear out over time, and I will say that the closer Firefox grows to Chrome, the less distinct an alternative it becomes as well. Even if this isn't going to affect users to a significant extent, the optics do make it appear as though users have one fewer reason to put their trust in Mozilla. @disky00 @prettyhuman @cuchaz That's completely fair. And it's a difficult comms battle for us to fight (and this isn't my area of expertise!). When we tried not to support DRM, our users didn't go 'great! You go! Fight the awful systems!' People went: 'Wtf? We wanna watch Netflix.' And we lost tens of millions of users. I understand if someone says 'good riddance, they didn't understand the importance of the open web...' But in my mind, we need to be here for everyone. Somehow. @disky00 @prettyhuman @cuchaz And as you rightfully said, our challenge is to explain to people how we still offer value over alternatives. What we do for them that other browser's don't. I think you're spot on there and it isn't something we're great at. @disky00 @prettyhuman @cuchaz (I'm in Europe and really need to get some sleep, so may not reply for a while. Thank you for your respectful engagement. I appreciate it.) @Schouten_B @prettyhuman @cuchaz Of course. it's nice to have a civil conversation. Take care. @disky00 @prettyhuman @cuchaz I'll happily get back to it later. And if ever I can help at least understand why we make decisions, I will try to do so :). (Even in those cases where I may not agree with them myself. :p) |
@disky00 @prettyhuman @cuchaz I don't think it is. Don't get me wrong. Working for Google or Facebook would allow me to make multiple times what I make at Firefox. If I didn't believe in the mission I'd be long gone.
The Mastodon bubble (even if you are not educated as you say), is extremely unrepresentative of the web or society at large. That society at large and its most vulnerable, to me, are much more important than the savvy people here.