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Orion (he/him)

@RustyBertrand @jillL I already posted this elsewhere, but we love when people ask us about our research. We got into academia to spread knowledge, and we fucking adore explaining things at length. The thought that someone cares about what we have to say is intoxicating.

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Thanasis Kinias

@orionkidder
I know there are a few ‘celebrity’ scholars who are different, but this totally describes almost all the academics I know...
@RustyBertrand @jillL

undead enby of the apocalypse

@jillL @tkinias @RustyBertrand @orionkidder I feel like there’s two archetypes of scientists, nerds who are motivated by a deep love for their field and nothing else, and are just really excited to talk about it, and weird elitists who are obsessed with status, their reputation, other people’s reputation, ect

Orion (he/him)

@RustyBertrand @enby_of_the_apocalypse @jillL @tkinias I've known more than a few old white men who are also excited nerds, and I've known a couple of white women in academia who were awful. I'm just saying.

Edit: I should have phrased that much more carefully! Let me say: you are not wrong, as a generalization, but there are significant exceptions.

undead enby of the apocalypse replied to Orion

@orionkidder @tkinias @jillL @RustyBertrand old white people in general. Tho I feel like the women tend to be at least slightly more likely to not be awful. I guess the more privileged someone is, the more they tend to be obsessed with prestige

Orion (he/him) replied to undead enby of the apocalypse

@enby_of_the_apocalypse @tkinias @jillL @RustyBertrand That's it exactly. Nobody is inherently good or bad based on their like demographic.

Proximity to systemic power, however, has a strong tendency to make people *terrible*.

Rusty Bertrand replied to Orion

@orionkidder @enby_of_the_apocalypse @tkinias @jillL

Yep. The thought stayed on my mind. It's the way they were brought up. Some are amazing.

Not all old white men are the absolute worst. But the absolute worst are all old white men.

Alex McLean

@orionkidder @RustyBertrand @jillL Then why do academics prop up these hyper-profitable publishers? So many people in this thread pretending that this is all an external evil, but it is completely in the gift of academics to get together and stop throwing public money in the black hole of these publishers' astonishingly high profit margins.
And no, emailing authors directly asking for copies usually does not work.

Alex McLean

@RustyBertrand @orionkidder @jillL It's possible for academics to get together and change the system they're working in - some fields are a lot better than others.

Rusty Bertrand

@yaxu @orionkidder @jillL
One guy in the thread said his team had to pay $11k to publish without the paywall.

Alex McLean replied to Rusty

@RustyBertrand @orionkidder @jillL Yes, it's a scam, academics know this, but still choose to support it, rather than join those organising against it.

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