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Lynnesbian :bune_ylw:

playing PC games from the 2000s is like

This game, like most Scringle Engine 3 games, does not support widescreen, and instead crops the 4:3 image to a 16:9 ratio. This can be fixed with Jambo's Game Tool, although this will disable the "Advanced Features" video option, which will remove reflections from puddles and mirrors.

To fix the immediate crash when starting the cutscene on level 3, download GregFix.dll from the GregUtils website (no link provided - Greg will send DMCA takedowns to any websites besides Google that provide his website's URL) and drop it in your system32 folder. Run the game with administrator privileges twice, letting it crash both times, then start it normally. This is confirmed to work on December 2022 through April 2023 builds of Windows 10.

71 comments
Petra

@lynnesbian and this is why the amount of work I'm prepared to go to to apply a widescreen patch is one (1) hex edit

datenwolf

@PetraOleum @lynnesbian DeusEx does support arbitrary resolutions and aspect ratios out of the box. I was pleasantly surprised about that.

ZILtoid1991

@datenwolf @PetraOleum @lynnesbian Deus Ex had a pretty good engine, which is almost usable without patching, but it's recommended due to other issues.

Chel

@lynnesbian god it's fucking true :blobcat_headache:

approxamatrix (but lethallavaland)

@lynnesbian@fedi.lynnesbian.space getting the Splinter Cell :Pandora Tomorrow PC port to work properly feels like this ​:neofox_googly_shocked:​

Natasha Nox πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡΅πŸ‡Έ

@lynnesbian Creating Lutris install scripts to automate all of this is quite cathartic.

purple πŸ‘ŠβœŠπŸ’¨

@Natanox@chaos.social @lynnesbian@fedi.lynnesbian.space about a decade ago some windows update prevented games and most applications from being able to write new files. rather than investigate what broke, i switched to linux for gaming and have had so much fewer issues overall 😌

:evdonia_corner_emblem: Melanie Bjornsdottir (she)

@Natanox @lynnesbian But if you do that, Greg will send DMCA takedowns to any website that provides your Lutris script

Benjamin

@lynnesbian It's not funny, because it's true 😒

Jonly

@lynnesbian buying prostreet and finding out i should have pirated it in the first place because the fix that fixes the continue bug gets blocked by the drm

Dirk

@lynnesbian can confirm this still works as of June '24

Professor_Stevens

@lynnesbian

If this began with, "Here's the first thing I got when I Googled 'dynaratio scringlegreg linguini':'" and ended with, "I don't even know why a person would ask this," it could be a StackOverflow answer.

Weedkiller

@lynnesbian I wish this was limited to old games. A similar thing happened to me when I tried to play Forza Horizon 4 (legit copy). Got a crash on launch that required a .dll to be replaced. Then it got fixed, but the MS login screen displayed cropped no matter what res/aspect ratio, so I had to find instructions to blind-type my username and pw counting tabs on the keyboard to switch focus and then press enter. Took 2h to start the bloody thing.

Kithop

@lynnesbian And then you head over to the Wine AppDB or ProtonDB and find that some dedicated soul has coded in almost all of the workarounds necessary to play it fine on modern Linux systems. Almost. Except even on the lowest graphics settings and modern hardware, it runs at like 30fps, and crashes if you Alt-Tab away for any reason.

Eliot Lash

@lynnesbian I feel this. I swear that Proton runs old windows games better than actual windows in some cases. I've had good luck getting a lot of old games running on my steam deck.

Jessica's new Main

@Eliot_L@social.coop @lynnesbian@fedi.lynnesbian.space couldn't run COD MW2 or 3 but works first try under linux, even with shitty gpu drivers

Richard Barrell

@Eliot_L @lynnesbian yeah this matches my experience with games from around the late win9x era, built for early DirectX versions. They tend to be marginal on both modern Windows and WINE but slightly more often working on the latter.

poisonwomb

@lynnesbian I wouldn’t have it any other way ❀️

Len
@lynnesbian I have a whole thing worked out to let old games from late 90s early 2000s go fullscreen on our 4k tv.

Main motivating factor was playing Nancy Drew games. Which is also why there's no info on how to do that that I could find, most people who play Nancy Drew games have laptops or old potatoes and definitely don't play them on 4k tvs.
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@lynnesbian this is literally why I'm grateful that GOG exists. πŸ˜‚

Evvy :neofox_floof:

@lynnesbian yet somehow it works perfectly under wine

unusual zone of infecundity
@pierogiburo @lynnesbian i'm guessing mostly through the hard work of people who lost their youth dealing with that shit day in day out...
Ben Lubar (any pronouns)

@lynnesbian the following statements are all true facts in this universe: Alien Swarm: Reactive Drop's developer tools crash at startup unless you've changed your screen resolution in the game at least once.

The person who compiled the part of the code that is broken left Valve in 2017 and the code was lost in a server move in 2018.

Both Alien Swarm and Alien Swarm: Reactive Drop currently run on an engine build from 2020 due to a remote code execution exploit that was found.

If you have a system with a portrait monitor resolution, the first paragraph of this post is untrue.

@lynnesbian the following statements are all true facts in this universe: Alien Swarm: Reactive Drop's developer tools crash at startup unless you've changed your screen resolution in the game at least once.

The person who compiled the part of the code that is broken left Valve in 2017 and the code was lost in a server move in 2018.

tekhedd

@lynnesbian "Cropping to 16:9" caused permanent damage to gaming culture that may never be fully healed, and is blamed by some for the death of first person games because "you can't see where you're walking unless you aim at the ground all the time what the hell did they even test this?"

Omnyx

@lynnesbian inb4 someone chimes in with "...and Proton runs it perfectly right out of the box :)"

BigBrotherTW

@lynnesbian and the game will still be more fun than anything AAA

mirabilos

@lynnesbian wtaf

download GregFix.dll from the GregUtils website (no link provided - Greg will send DMCA takedowns to any websites besides Google that provide his website's URL)

That’s so utterly hostile it deserves to be burnt in obsolescence and obliviousness, not promoted on Fedi.

Alex Michael Berry πŸ¦€πŸˆπŸ©πŸ¦‡

@lynnesbian Now you're gonna get a BUNCH of warnings about 32-bit systems not being supported, just ignore those until the end of time, but if you don't see the warning for some reason contact poison control and leave your house.

Wyatt (πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈβ™€?)

@lynnesbian or just use a windows xp desktop with a 4:3 or 5:4 monitor like the gods intended

Kaye

@lynnesbian I'm still not sure how we convinced Greg to set up a website. Back in the day you could only get GregUtils on CD, so you had to meet up at a conference or send him a self-addressed stamped envelope.

Umberto Ecco

@kaye @lynnesbian it wasn’t really his choice. His gf got sick of carrying in all the mail and hiked up her programming socks and wrote it for him

daedalouseros

@lynnesbian@fedi.lynnesbian.space but gaming on Linux is "too hard." :')

I was actually just thinking about this the other day, about how there are some Windows games that take just as much effort to get running on Windows, but everyone's already used to that version of the Hokey Pokey, so it barely registers in their mind.

🌈 A. Wilcox delicately

@lynnesbian distressingly similar to actual SimCity 4 instructions…

John🎬

@lynnesbian I can't remember the name of the game, but it stopped working due to the copy protection. ..hang on...

Yeah, Ubisoft issue a patch to fix a DRM issue in Rainbow Six Vegas 2. All they did was go to a crack site and downloaded RELOADED's no CD crack for the game!!

youtu.be/VLmZOFCgMEc?si=odUizf

nige

makes using Proton on Linux a walk in the park.

jackdaw, ultranormal aspect

@lynnesbian

i was in an IRC channel with Greg for a while. apparently he got really into making custom levels for games on the Scringle engine but to this day has never played any of them. he's actually a nice guy, in a manifestly unpleasant and not actually nice way.

🐻 John πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ

@lynnesbian Yeah this is why I gave up and just re-bought Sims 3 when it was on sale on Steam. Felt bad but I couldn't deal with ^^^that any more.

sqrt(-1)

@lynnesbian this exactly how people play Skyrim

LiquidParasyte

@lynnesbian TFW running all games through Proton Linux is easier and better than running through either Windows or Linux :blobfoxthinkgoogly:

ROTOPE~1 :yell:

@LiquidParasyte @lynnesbian it's funny watching a game that would absolutely demolish Windows's whole graphics stack if your finger grazed the Windows Key (πŸͺŸπŸ”‘), just putter around in a shrunk gamescope window under Linux. You're not so tough now, huh?

Bastet

@lynnesbian reasons why I keep an old PC running 98 around. Even has a Voodoo 3 AGP ❀️

dogzilla

@lynnesbian @eilonwy What would life be like if gaming companies made cars or refrigerators?

seri

@lynnesbian getting the games to run is half the fun

Kluthulhu' XOR 1=1--

@lynnesbian GOG are lowkey heroes for selling old games prepatched and confirmed to work

ZILtoid1991

@lynnesbian I have wrestled enough with the Windows (and Linux) API to know why these are true. A lot of things in the API are poorly documented, because
1. You were supposed to just copy the code, and not adjust it to get OpenGL working.
2. You were supposed to use "Johnny's janky and overbloated middleware" instead, which also includes some standard library functionality, because Johnny's favorite obscure system's devkit doesn't by default.

Aks :quake_verified:​ :kde:

@lynnesbian

what weirds me out is that figuring out how to get the game running is sometimes even more fun than the game itself lol

Lynnesbian :bune_ylw:

@aks
i'm like this too - i'll read long technical articles about how emulator devs got a particular game to work even though i have no interest in the game they're talking about

David L

@lynnesbian I can't tell if these are actual instructions for an actual game or not πŸ€”

wikiyu

@lynnesbian oh right and thanks for remembering my whi i have a 4:3 screen on my wish list

kwantumkraut

@lynnesbian @chaotin Throwback to even a decade before that when you made boot floppies so you had only the bare minimum DOS booting in order for the game to run.
Good times, learnt a lot.

Olivier MenguΓ©

@kwantumkraut @lynnesbian @chaotin Same here. I built a boot floppy with a menu for 80+ games. The good old time of CD of demos bundled with magazines.

Klaus Zimmermann :unverified:

@lynnesbian this sounds exactly like my most recent attempt to run cs 1.6 in 64bit Debian, minus the additional work in getting a recent version of wine running.

Man, and to think that things were so simple back then...

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@lynnesbian I went back to 16:9. Had 21:9 for years but games were not ready and it was so annoying. Now they are ready but I don't care anymore

DELETED

@lynnesbian the thing is, I took a bigger screen but in 16:9 so i lost only a few centimeters wide but i actually gained in height

I think I went from 34' ultra wide to 32' wide iirc. And it feels bigger

Jessie Nabein :neofox_peek_owo:

@lynnesbian GregUtils was caught adding malware to GregFix.dll, so someone hacked his server for the source code and released OpenGregFix2.dll

ark (28904)

@lynnesbian@fedi.lynnesbian.space

valve games are funny about this because they are always playable, the visual effects, minor bugs, and default settings just come and go as they please in updates.

jordan

@lynnesbian This was exactly my experience trying to run Splinter Cell: Blacklist (2013).

LisPi

@lynnesbian Kinda stoked that soldat was released as Free Software for that reason.

Fix the problems at the root. It just works.

Maddie :patsMaddie:
@lynnesbian "also the only color in this game is brown lol"
Lee

@lynnesbian I loved Ban Me Thout in 67-68. Lush, clean, beautiful countryside and good people.

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