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Francesco Orsenigo (he/him)

@ludicity Very enjoyable read, thank you.

I wish there was some mention of the energy costs / climate impact of the tech tho, which TBH is what worries me the most.

19 June at 6:44 | Wall-to-wall | Open on functional.cafe
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rhempel

@xarvh @ludicity Your point is valid, but long before the energy problem shuts down GenAI data centers, the lack of paying customers will pull the trigger.

Then the question becomes what to do with all the large, lightless, but well cooled empty buildings.

19 June at 16:33 | Open on mstdn.ca
Francesco Orsenigo (he/him)

@rhempel @ludicity I don't give a rat's ass about AI shutting down.
I am worried that all the energy consumed is adding up to the climate collapse.
It's just the most obvious example of how we're destroying the planet to follow the whims of a few charismatic egomaniac assholes.

When the AI bubble pops, the above mentioned assholes will jump on the next hype wagon and find another way to abuse the stupidly large amount of computing power deployed for LLMs and continue to fry the planet to show how visionary they are to their equally idiot peers and sycophants.

Crypto, blockchains, LLMs... The hardware is there, they'll find something.

@rhempel @ludicity I don't give a rat's ass about AI shutting down.
I am worried that all the energy consumed is adding up to the climate collapse.
It's just the most obvious example of how we're destroying the planet to follow the whims of a few charismatic egomaniac assholes.

When the AI bubble pops, the above mentioned assholes will jump on the next hype wagon and find another way to abuse the stupidly large amount of computing power deployed for LLMs and continue to fry the planet to show how...

19 June at 17:02 | Open on functional.cafe
Ludic 🧛

@xarvh @rhempel True, though I should point out the LLM revolution is slightly unique. They don't need engineering discipline - you just make an OpenAI request. If they move on to something else, it might suck, but it is actually harder to damage the environment through something like a data governance hypefest (unless it's GPU or blockchain powered).

These are idle thoughts though, it could still go terribly and I haven't thought on what's next deeply.

19 June at 22:47 | Open on mastodon.sprawl.club
Ludic 🧛

@rhempel @xarvh We put all the D&D nerds in there, ayyyy lmao (don't be mad, internet, I'm a D&D nerd)

19 June at 22:45 | Open on mastodon.sprawl.club
Shaula Evans

@rhempel@0mstdn.ca @xarvh @ludicity

> Then the question becomes what to do with all the large, lightless, but well cooled empty buildings.

Not the actual point of the original post or your comment, I realize, but my first thought was that if you can add effective air ventilation and filtration (as well as lighting, presumably), these may repurpose as public cooling centers in extreme heat events, which we will have increasing call for from climate change.

20 June at 1:56 | Open on zirk.us
:evdonia_corner_emblem: Melanie Bjornsdottir (she)

@ShaulaEvans @rhempel @xarvh @ludicity half of them into non-AI datacentres, and half of them into house or hostel space

20 June at 2:01 | Open on bv.umbrellix.org
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