Gregory's Server@kissane The fact that people say this is all the proof I need that the specs are being written by engineers when they should be written by humanists / communitarians.
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 @fraying Yeah. I don’t think everyone who holds that stance is abusive, but it does rhyme.  @kissane yeah not subtooting anyone in particular, just pointing out how problematic the thinking is. As I see it, everyone being able to reply creates an enormous power imbalance between the poster and the rest of the world. The power of a mob is just too great. Setting a reply gate helps level that power imbalance - and it’s especially needed after a post reaches escape velocity.  The people who work on the ActivityPub specs are humans and we use the Fediverse. We're not space creatures or robots. We care about other humans and we love our kids and dogs. There are currently two specs being worked on for reply control. You'll probably see some more work on this coming out soon. Did we think of everything when we created ActivityPub? No. Did we make it extensible so future people could improve it? Yes we did. @fraying @kissane this one works by setting a flag. https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/5624/fep-5624.md @fraying @kissane this one works by maintaining a canonical list of replies on the sender's server, so they can edit it. https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/7458/fep-7458.md @evan @kissane Evan, I wasn’t talking about you. I understand why you might have thought I was, but trust me, you’ve proven yourself to be kind, smart, and considerate on this platform. If anything, I’m talking about mastodon’s implementation in particular, but also Bluesky’s. I’m also complaining because I’m exactly the kind of communitarian who gets shouted at by fedi folks every time I talk about how this very good place could be improved, as Erin is here.  @evan @fraying @kissane I just really hope it doesn't fracture the network further because some servers don't agree how to use it or implement it amongst one another and defederate even more... It's definitely needed but I do hope everyone agrees with it first so that problem doesn't become worse. I love this place for the positive vibe but it really sucks that I can be following eg some cool fanartist from Asia but suddenly lose each other because stranger in Australia has beef with stranger @evan @fraying @kissane in Brazil (the server admins) without either of us even knowing. (Hypothetically, fandom is big and fun here but 99,99% of the amazing fanartists and cool cosplayers I follow worldwide are still on twitter. But you get the point, I hate that at any point you can just be cut off from anyone or whole groups beyond any control.) I get why some consider it an anti-feature, it feels like the individual user isn't in control (same as with being unable to gate replies IG...)  |
@kissane also “don’t speak if you don’t wanna be spoken to by everyone, everywhere” is abuser logic.