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@celesteh I don't think this is about capitalism or socialism, it is about whether to treat human like human, it is about a government to serve people vs serve the rich. It is possible to have a humane and democratic government under capitalism, people just need to be like human. Unfortunately, that is not the case right now. 3 comments
@celesteh to me, most European countries runs on capitalism (as investor can still be rich, hence capital still holds enough value to attract capitalists). I have not been there, but free education, universal healthcare, abundant union, humane prison, and bikable city seems like a pretty livable situation. There's like 27 different countries, just in the EU. All are capitalist. Some have privatised healthcare but others don't. Some are building social housing, but others aren't. All are cooperating on detaining refugees under appalling conditions. The system relies on maltreatment of outsider groups. |
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@czhang03
The post war consensus was still based on colonialism and a permanent under class.
I don't think there are any examples of capitalism being fair and just.