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Brar Piening

@dalias @Mer__edith @svitvojimilioni @echo_pbreyer I actually consider it a strength of the EU that there are regularly two forces pulling in opposite directions.

31 May at 15:22 | Wall-to-wall | Open on floss.social
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Sr. Estegosaurio 🦕

@brar @dalias @Mer__edith @svitvojimilioni @echo_pbreyer But you can only vote for one of them. Peak democracy here. 💀💀💀💀

31 May at 20:58 | Open on mstdn.social
Juho Mäntysalo

@SrEstegosaurio @brar @dalias @Mer__edith @svitvojimilioni @echo_pbreyer

You vote for the state governments and you vote for the MEPs.

The commission is the end result of the state governments and by MEPs. Doesn't differ from US practice of president appointing secretaries of state or of European practice of parliament majority appointing the prime minister (and they in turn the cabinet),stamped by the President.

None of this is direct democracy, ofc, but I assume that wasn't your complaint.

1 June at 0:40 | Open on mastodon.social
Grant

@iju @SrEstegosaurio @brar @dalias @Mer__edith @svitvojimilioni @echo_pbreyer

You've just pointed out something that ~20million brexiters couldn't grasp.

1 June at 7:52 | Open on mstdn.social
Juho Mäntysalo

@gsymon @SrEstegosaurio @brar @dalias @Mer__edith @svitvojimilioni @echo_pbreyer

I suppose it would look different from English perspective as the winner of English election ends as the British PM, and singular ministers aren't as much in the spotlight.

The Scottish or NIrish perspective would be different, which shows how the brexit-mentality rises from the privileged position the English enjoy in the British polity, leading to incorrect assumptions on representative democracy as a whole.

1 June at 8:01 | Open on mastodon.social
Leeloo

@iju @SrEstegosaurio @brar @dalias @Mer__edith @svitvojimilioni @echo_pbreyer
No, we vote for state parliaments.

There is some level of state politicians trying to push stuff through the EU they can't get past their own parliament.

For example, the Danish representative in the council voted for the patent directive, even though our parliament (and voters) were against.

2 June at 6:50 | Open on techhub.social
Juho Mäntysalo

@leeloo @SrEstegosaurio @brar @dalias @Mer__edith @svitvojimilioni @echo_pbreyer

Not going to spend my Sunday going through everything's that's wrong in both facts and views of that post.

2 June at 7:11 | Open on mastodon.social
Peter Kraus
Sr. Estegosaurio 🦕
rugk

@SrEstegosaurio
Note I can recommend @nicosemsrott 's show that focuses on all that from an inside view as he was a eu parliamentarian for five years. It's very insightful, do watch it! (in German though)

m.youtube.com/watch?v=l1muuLA_

@pkraus @brar @dalias @Mer__edith @svitvojimilioni @echo_pbreyer

3 June at 20:33 | Open on chaos.social
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