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CrunkLord420
@Saxophone3784 KF basically needs to "win" in order for KFcc to come back. We need a real datacenter provider who will back KF 100% when it comes to these deplatforming campaigns. That doesn't exist, yet.

The semi-decentralized layer-7 anti-DDoS stuff doesn't work for protocols like the fediverse.
1 June at 18:41 | Wall-to-wall | Open on clubcyberia.co
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NonPlayableClown
>We need a real datacenter provider who will back KF 100% when it comes to these deplatforming campaigns.

You also need one that isn't going to fold when a retard from Canada calls and lies about all the harassment and non-existent CP KF has. :SeethingDanielS:
1 June at 18:45 | Open on postnstuffds.lol
32784
@NonPlayableClown @crunklord420
Is there no other protocol besides the fediverse that can work? Is it not sensible to develop something that would work under these conditions?
1 June at 18:46 | Open on clubcyberia.co
CrunkLord420
@Saxophone3784 @NonPlayableClown not really. The problem is the need to create unsolicited outbound connections. The website stuff works because it's all inbound reverse-proxy.

Perhaps with a lot of effort something could be made but it's a situation where the forum was under existential threat and the fact the forum has returned in such a solid state is itself a big win and it may not be worth the risk to disrupt it's success by adding more shit on top of it.
@Saxophone3784 @NonPlayableClown not really. The problem is the need to create unsolicited outbound connections. The website stuff works because it's all inbound reverse-proxy.

Perhaps with a lot of effort something could be made but it's a situation where the forum was under existential threat and the fact the forum has returned in such a solid state is itself a big win and it may not be worth the...
1 June at 18:48 | Open on clubcyberia.co
CrunkLord420
@Saxophone3784 @NonPlayableClown and that's also totally ignoring the fact every fediverse server will just throw up it's hands trying trying to do the PoW check. Adding the ability for fediverse servers to do PoW as an anti-DDoS feature could become a vector for DoS attacks. Trannies would likely balk at any attempt to add such a feature, even with anti-DoS mitigations. Maybe it could potentially work given per-IP/per-domain throttles. Then again, making it easy for non-browser software to complete the hash might end up defeating the entire original purpose of the technique.

I wonder what @alex would say about the feasibility of adding such functionality.
@Saxophone3784 @NonPlayableClown and that's also totally ignoring the fact every fediverse server will just throw up it's hands trying trying to do the PoW check. Adding the ability for fediverse servers to do PoW as an anti-DDoS feature could become a vector for DoS attacks. Trannies would likely balk at any attempt to add such a feature, even with anti-DoS mitigations. Maybe it could potentially work given per-IP/per-domain throttles. Then again, making it easy for non-browser software to complete...
1 June at 18:54 | Open on clubcyberia.co
32784
@crunklord420 @NonPlayableClown @alex Where do you personally see all of this going? do you think fediverse does indeed have potential or will these problems outweigh any benefits in the future?
1 June at 18:57 | Open on clubcyberia.co
CrunkLord420
@Saxophone3784 @NonPlayableClown @alex no one on the fediverse actually gets meaningfully DDoS'd. No one is under serious attack. There isn't a serious spam problem on the fediverse.

The only reason this is true is because the fediverse is a cringe protocol that no one actually cares about. If the fediverse were actually popular the network would become much more militarized like how email works in practice. With real-time blacklists, whitelists, mail provider contact registrations, etc. Email sucks as a result of spam and now email is hardly a open protocol if you don't like being instantly marked as spam.
@Saxophone3784 @NonPlayableClown @alex no one on the fediverse actually gets meaningfully DDoS'd. No one is under serious attack. There isn't a serious spam problem on the fediverse.

The only reason this is true is because the fediverse is a cringe protocol that no one actually cares about. If the fediverse were actually popular the network would become much more militarized like how email works...
1 June at 19:01 | Open on clubcyberia.co
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