@lostgen @davidho When I lived in Antwerp we didn't have a car either. If I lived there still I probably wouldn't have a car, it's more a problem than a sollution. Antwerp has quite good bike infrastructure and Park and Rides at the edges and a lot of car free streets. It has improved a lot for pedestrians, people taking public transport and cyclists. So I know exactly what you mean and I don't disagree that a liveable city should be the priority.