Gregory's Server@iju @katnjiapus @gsuberland unfortunately they are killing win10 (or fortunately, depending on the viewpoint). I've tried to run win10 on newer laptop but failed to make it work fine. So ended up upgrading to 11. I use Windows just for games, main OS is openSUSE Linux, so not a big problem for me.
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@katnjiapus @iju @gsuberland tech/security support, yes. But MS isn't really supporting newer hardware with win10, which is understandable. So from, as you said, consumer side it looks like killing: you can't smoothly install and use it. To be fair, MS support for newer hardware on "older" versions of Windows has never been great. And since Windows 8 honestly smooth installs been a royal pain in the behind. Speaking for myself, what made me drop Windows 7 in the end, wasn't end of official support, rather third-party support. When that drops will truly be the final nail in the coffin for Windows 10. But Windows 11 being so terrible, maybe will be a boon for us to get more folks on Linux.  @mykolak @katnjiapus @gsuberland I wouldn't know. Updated my tabletop about year ago, and was able to move my Win8-licence over and update to Win10 without problems. But of course I didn't buy latest tech due to premium prices they usually carry. Still unsure why they wouldn't have win10 -drivers, though. The os is supported, after all. I'm fully commited to moving to Linux once this doesn't work anymore, only hoping that Steam-for-Linux starts to support more of my games that it does now. @iju @katnjiapus @gsuberland yeah prices are terrible, but my previous laptop was 8 years old, it was ok for some stuff, but... I don't know why it this way. I've managed WiFi, touchpad to get working, fixed some other minor issues. As for sound, I've spend 2 evenings to get it working but failed. Also FPS wasn't smooth — some hiccups here and there (I think win10 still has problems with E-cores). @mykolak @katnjiapus @gsuberland I feel for you. I'm not a technical expert, sad to say, and my skills are limited to some light troubleshooting on hardware and software both. Got audio working on a linux laptop few years ago, which is pretty much my greatest personal achievement on that sector. Otherwise (which is about once every two years) I rely on the help of my friends, who thankfully are technically competent and willing to entertain questions from an unskilled person like myself. Well the good news is Steam for Linux and Proton works really well. @katnjiapus @mykolak @gsuberland I checked the list of my Steam library's supported games just last week, and lets say the percentages weren't very uplifting even with probably-ok's included. But honestly I guess some of them wouldn't have worked on supported windows', either. @iju @mykolak @gsuberland *nods* tho ProtonDB / WineHQ needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. The testing isn't automatic on either so you'll kinda just have to try to see if it runs. I've noticed tho that sometimes games run fine, but a library that needed to be included isn't so you need to add it after the fact. But that's also what you do on Windows, so eh :blobCatGooglyShrug: |
@mykolak @iju @gsuberland
Well they're trying to kill the "consumer" editions. But support for Windows 10 will last till 2032